34th Overall Pick

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Moses?

LOL

Richardson?

I've done nothing to analyze these guys.

Take a break....

Take a break? Dont know what you mean.
As far as your comment about needing to take an olineman with our first pick who did you have in mind? I know you havent analyzed them but qualified individuals have and Moses and Richardson are getting high marks.
Edit: you seemed to be against the idea of passing on a 2nd round olineman for a third. Im just pointing out two of the obvious OT's that will be there in those spots.

[SmootSmack]

The worst, Worst, WORST, WOOOORRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT thing the Redskins can do is take a player at a a position "of need" at #34 (such as Right Tackle) when that player doesn't deserve to be taken that high, just to say they "filled a need"

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The worst, Worst, WORST, WOOOORRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT thing the Redskins can do is take a player at a a position "of need" at #34 (such as Right Tackle) when that player doesn't deserve to be taken that high, just to say they "filled a need"

agree

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The worst, Worst, WORST, WOOOORRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT thing the Redskins can do is take a player at a a position "of need" at #34 (such as Right Tackle) when that player doesn't deserve to be taken that high, just to say they "filled a need"

I certainly agree. Its a balance of need and best player available and I say we have 7 positions of need: Safety, Corner, Tackle, Guard, TE, OLB, and DE. At 34, you can safely eliminate Tackle and TE as most likely talent available at that spot. I think the strongest prospects available at that spot will be OLB and Guard.

I think its true that reaching for a need is unwise, but what worse is getting a position we dont need at 34 ie WR. And particularly the kids from Vandy and Clemson (not Watkins). They are projects and end of bench guys. Thats a much worse mistake imo.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I certainly agree. Its a balance of need and best player available and I say we have 7 positions of need: Safety, Corner, Tackle, Guard, TE, OLB, and DE. At 34, you can safely eliminate Tackle and TE as most likely talent available at that spot. I think the strongest prospects available at that spot will be OLB and Guard.

I think its true that reaching for a need is unwise, but what worse is getting a position we dont need at 34 ie WR. And particularly the kids from Vandy and Clemson (not Watkins). They are projects and end of bench guys. Thats a much worse mistake imo.

If we go pure BPA, IMO we pick a center or guard at 34 (or thereabouts). Add NT to the mix if Nix falls. The best safeties, corners, tackles, OLB's, and TE's will be off the board, but the best center and guard in the draft (and maybe NT) might still be there.

Such would be ok with me. I'm not rooting for a particular position, I just want us to be smart.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I certainly agree. Its a balance of need and best player available and I say we have 7 positions of need: Safety, Corner, Tackle, Guard, TE, OLB, and DE. At 34, you can safely eliminate Tackle and TE as most likely talent available at that spot. I think the strongest prospects available at that spot will be OLB and Guard.

I think its true that reaching for a need is unwise, but what worse is getting a position we dont need at 34 ie WR. And particularly the kids from Vandy and Clemson (not Watkins). They are projects and end of bench guys. Thats a much worse mistake imo.

in the mock drafts I have seen there is not much difference between #34 and #41 +. So if they can trade down and add another player it is a no brainier. I agree with the 7 positions, and would add a center to the list.

Bleacher report has :

#41 Moses T
#47 Su'a Filo G
#48 Nix NT
#51 Buchannon S
late 2nd Van Noy OLB
late 2nd Murphy DE
late 2nd Niklas TE

If their mock draft is accurate they could get one of the players above, and add a 3rd round pick, and get two of these three:

Ward S
Reynolds S
Richardson T
Turner G/T
Thomas G/T
Bitonio G/T

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

in the mock drafts I have seen there is not much difference between #34 and #41 +. So if they can trade down and add another player it is a no brainier. I agree with the 7 positions, and would add a center to the list.

Bleacher report has :

#41 Moses T
#47 Su'a Filo G
#48 Nix NT
#51 Buchannon S
late 2nd Van Noy OLB
late 2nd Murphy DE
late 2nd Niklas TE

If their mock draft is accurate they could get one of the players above, and add a 3rd round pick, and get two of these three:

Ward S
Reynolds S
Richardson T
Turner G/T
Thomas G/T
Bitonio G/T

Not to shit on your post, but bleacher report is an absolute terrible resource. Kiper/McShays rankings, cbs draft scout are kinda my go to.

Question, who goes where for draft rankings/prospect reports and who is the best in your opinion?

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Not to shit on your post, but bleacher report is an absolute terrible resource. Kiper/McShays rankings, cbs draft scout are kinda my go to.

Question, who goes where for draft rankings/prospect reports and who is the best in your opinion?

The point wasn't that Bleacher report is the most accurate, it was that there is depth in the draft (as KI Skins says). The mock drafts are all over the place, Morgan Moses could be a late 1st or drop to the 3rd, ditto for Jimmy Ward, and several others.

I like this site, it is much more informative than the CBS site, but it does not rank players in draft order, just by position ...... at least I cannot find the list.

The Sports Xchange College Football/NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage by the Sports Xchange

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The worst, Worst, WORST, WOOOORRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT thing the Redskins can do is take a player at a a position "of need" at #34 (such as Right Tackle) when that player doesn't deserve to be taken that high, just to say they "filled a need"

Agreed to an extent. I just feel like RG-3's health is a huuuuuge "need". This is why I would be thrilled if they went best available at say ilb or dback - at 34 and than snatch up a guy like Antonio Richardson in the third. I also think Seantrel Hendersen out of the U could be a real surprise.
Edit: i think you have to mesh best available with filling a need to have a great draft.
Edit : hendersen would of course be a late round pick.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Agreed to an extent. I just feel like RG-3's health is a huuuuuge "need". This is why I would be thrilled if they went best available at say ilb or dback - at 34 and than snatch up a guy like Antonio Richardson in the third. I also think Seantrel Hendersen out of the U could be a real surprise.
Edit: i think you have to mesh best available with filling a need to have a great draft.
Edit : hendersen would of course be a late round pick.

the only surprise would be if Henderson stays out of trouble

Seantrel Henderson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Agreed to an extent. I just feel like RG-3's health is a huuuuuge "need". This is why I would be thrilled if they went best available at say ilb or dback - at 34 and than snatch up a guy like Antonio Richardson in the third. I also think Seantrel Hendersen out of the U could be a real surprise.
Edit: i think you have to mesh best available with filling a need to have a great draft.
Edit : hendersen would of course be a late round pick.

Agree with your first edit. But I think too many people simply say we need a right tackle! And I don't agree with that because we need a lot of things, and if a right tackle isn't the best player when it's time for us to draft then we'd be making a mistake taking a right tackle.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Agree with your first edit. But I think too many people simply say we need a right tackle! And I don't agree with that because we need a lot of things, and if a right tackle isn't the best player when it's time for us to draft then we'd be making a mistake taking a right tackle.

I agree with you there, and it doesnt look like RT will be the best player st #34

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Basically I am good to go with any position on defense, and if a stud O player is there at 34 we should be prepared to draft him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

the only surprise would be if Henderson stays out of trouble



Seantrel Henderson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know all about him. Dont have to read the link. He smoked some weed and had a car accident. Who hasnt? Lol.
I firmly believe he has matured enough to make a career for himself in the NFL. If he gets the rite people around him and a chance he can be an absolutely dominant player in the NFL. With our need at the position, he could be well worth a 5-6 round pick.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I know all about him. Dont have to read the link. He smoked some weed and had a car accident. Who hasnt? Lol.
I firmly believe he has matured enough to make a career for himself in the NFL. If he gets the rite people around him and a chance he can be an absolutely dominant player in the NFL. With our need at the position, he could be well worth a 5-6 round pick.

the guy could not finish his pro day, and was suspended 3 times at Miami.. ... just wait until he gets some money. Someone will take a chance on him, the Redskins cannot afford to.

Miami tackle Seantrel Henderson can’t finish workout | ProFootballTalk