Hall of Fame Game Thread....

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Dallas Clark and Robinson were eating Doughty alive out there. He had that one nice hit, but he was in position for the hit because he was late getting over to the play, he also totally whiffed trying to tackle Dallas Clark.

What 2nd safety wouldn't Dallas Clark make whiff?
C'mon...his wiffed once...unless I missed something, Doughty was in way better positions to tackle...than say .....smoot...who has like 5 yrs on him.

compare Sweigart to him...he TOTALLY blew that first TD coverage along with Tryon....and pass protection is his freaking job.

Doughty plays strong safety and is mostly supposed to stuff the run....he did way better in pass coverage than the free safety Sweigart...in my opinion

[skinsfan_nn]

Really good game. Nice to see the first line look so sharp. Quite a few surprises in the mix also.

Game stats:
NFL Game Center: Post Game - Indianapolis Colts at Washington Redskins - 2008 Hall of Fame Week

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Fantastic outing for the Skins!!!

QB's looked very crisp. Impressive showing by some rookies: Horton best of all, but Davis I thought looked good too. Very few penalties and excellent organization, which indicates good coaching.

My only concerns (things that could be issues beyond preseason IMO) are:

1) Jansen still looks slow - gave up a sack just in the short time he was on the field. Personally I think this is a huge concern. Film from last year shows he was constantly a step behind and getting beat and obviously after the terrible injury he's probably more arthritic.

Which leads to 2nd concern...

2) Depth at o-line still seems to be a huge issue. Fabini should just become a full-time truck driver, football ain't his gig. Wade is too injury prone and mostly ineffective. Heyer still gets manhandled by veteran d-ends and it looks like he's still covered in baby-fat. Chad looks like the only legitimate backup right now IMO - fortunately he can play guard or tackle - I guarantee he plays quite a bit this year.

The Backup O-line is definitely a concern for me as well.
Jon Jansen was shaky. Heyer was up and down, mostly down. I expected more from Fabini and Wade but they were very dissappointing. Justin Geisinger looked pretty bad at center. Chad Rinehart looks like he is going to be legit though.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Fantastic outing for the Skins!!!
My only concerns (things that could be issues beyond preseason IMO) are:

1) Jansen still looks slow.

Excellent point....remember last year at this time prior to us discovering how crappy Wade was....Wade failed as a guard which made us trade draft picks for a geizer....

Then we discover jansen lost a step....and many of us were thinking Wade was the answer to replace a declining jansen. Then he got injured.
How soon we forget how lame jansen looked last year at this time.

It is unfortunate that he gave up some pass rush move...but Wade is no better, and neither is Heyer. Jansen does work well within the unit and is a good run blocker, but he clearly is declining in pass protection

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

What 2nd safety wouldn't Dallas Clark make whiff?
C'mon...his wiffed once...unless I missed something, Doughty was in way better positions to tackle...than say .....smoot...who has like 5 yrs on him.

compare Sweigart to him...he TOTALLY blew that first TD coverage along with Tryon....and pass protection is his freaking job.

Doughty plays strong safety and is mostly supposed to stuff the run....he did way better in pass coverage than the free safety Sweigart...in my opinion

You're right Schweigert was horrible, but Doughty was nothing to shake a stick at either. Sorgi was picking on Doughty the whole time he was out there. Clark wasn't the only one to shake Doughty, Robinson had his way with him a few times as well. We have very good Tight Ends in our division, Doughty can't play against them like he did against Clark and Robinson tonight or it's going to be a long game for him.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

You're right Schweigert was horrible, but Doughty was nothing to shake a stick at either. Sorgi was picking on Doughty the whole time he was out there. Clark wasn't the only one to shake Doughty, Robinson had his way with him a few times as well. We have very good Tight Ends in our division, Doughty can't play against them like he did against Clark and Robinson tonight or it's going to be a long game for him.

Well...who do you think is better on our team at SS?
Horton?

That is arguable at best.....however...to me...Doughty is close to a lock considering he aint bad and Sweigart was close to lousy

[SeanTaylor21SKINS]

Great game by Colt and Campbell. Horton seemed pretty impressive also as with the starting o-line. But I feel like on D we have our linebackers so far back. I think that's one of the reasons they got so many yards on us through the ground game. But overall it was an exciting game and i'm glad to see the Skins back on the field.

Hail To The Redskins!

[skinsnut]

Lets look at this game objectively.
We are supposed to analyse a few things....
New coach....A+....enough said.
Jason Campbell and offenses ability to pick up new system....A+...again...enough said.
Determine our success with our 10 draft pick...
Well...only Horton and Brennan did well....
Doesn't look that great.
Perhaps Rhinehart did ok....and maybe Brooks..but Tryon flat out sucked and the rest were marginal if nothing.
We really need to see our WR's in future games otherwise, our rookies didn't do that great..but thats not suprising....lets give them 2 more game to see how many pick we keep

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Well...who do you think is better on our team at SS?
Horton?

That is arguable at best.....however...to me...Doughty is close to a lock considering he aint bad and Sweigart was close to lousy

Doughty will definitely be the starting SS, but if Horton keeps playing like he did tonight he could end up replacing Doughty somewhere down the line.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Doughty will definitely be the starting SS, but if Horton keeps playing like he did tonight he could end up replacing Doughty somewhere down the line.

I agree, Schweigert played very poorly. As for Doughty, he seemed to find himself out of place a couple of times in pass coverage - nothing that can't be worked on though. And Horton made his presence known, but he wasn't exactly a ball hawk either. None of our safeties really impressed in the passing game.

[DIRTEE]

Schweigert did stink it up, but it was the first preseason game. i think a few rookies showed and proved that they are ready to be pros. I thought that Brennan, Horton, Jackson, Rinehart, Brooks and Davis did well. Tryon was ok. The RB's looked great. The LB's looked confused; don't think Sinclair was comfortable at MLB.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Lets look at this game objectively.
We are supposed to analyse a few things....
New coach....A+....enough said.
Jason Campbell and offenses ability to pick up new system....A+...again...enough said.
Determine our success with our 10 draft pick...
Well...only Horton and Brennan did well....
Doesn't look that great.
Perhaps Rhinehart did ok....and maybe Brooks..but Tryon flat out sucked and the rest were marginal if nothing.
We really need to see our WR's in future games otherwise, our rookies didn't do that great..but thats not suprising....lets give them 2 more game to see how many pick we keep

Brooks was good IMO as far as the young CB Tryon he is a risk-taker he has the ability to be a solid corner but he gambles too much over pursuits and let the offense make plays I hope he will get it together next week.

[jamf]

Lets not get too carried away.
The Skins started training camp almost a week before the Colts.

I was impressed with Horton. He showed alot of discipline on the onside kick. But again, Lets not get carried away, He was completely unblocked on his two sacks and the QB never saw him.

Colt looked great. Nothing bad to say, Hopefully we can see him with the first stringers.

The O-Line looked good too! Good lanes for the RBs and plenty of time for the QBs. I'm a little concerned about Jansen, he looked slow.


Brooks looked good out there. I liked the back spin he had on his punt that landed inside the 10 yard line.

I'm little disappointed with Tryon. He showed not ball skills on the deep pass completed on him.

Doughty was horrible. Dallas Clark is a good player but he isn't that good. Doughty was exploited today. Shweigart also had his problems.
We have no depth at safety, we cannot afford to have any injuries in our secondary.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

You're right Schweigert was horrible, but Doughty was nothing to shake a stick at either. Sorgi was picking on Doughty the whole time he was out there. Clark wasn't the only one to shake Doughty, Robinson had his way with him a few times as well. We have very good Tight Ends in our division, Doughty can't play against them like he did against Clark and Robinson tonight or it's going to be a long game for him.

Other crap I deleted.

The one thing I was happy about was Doughty putting to rest the fact that he's a big hitter.

Lol Edit: ROFL I r find films less then 3. <3

NFL Video Galleries - Jim Sorgi Highlights

1st Play: Campbell was assigned to cover Clark. Doughty got in on the tackle

2nd Play: Doughty lays the wood but the Reciever still makes the catch. Doughty appologist are sad and happy at the same time. Actually I wish we could get an end zone view of this play because I think that Sorgi might have thown it to an area the LB's were suppose to be covering. Of course I'm not sure so I'll just stick with my original statement for now.

3rd Play: Quick Flat route by Clark. I didn't really see where Doughty lined up in the highlight but if I remember right he was about 10 yards back. and he still made the tackle.

4th Play: Rob Jackson gets a sack

5th Play: Robinson is being covered by Sinclair. Doughty is playing a deep zone so Sinclair is lucky that Doughty helped him out after Sinclair bit on play action.

6th Play: Ok, this the Doughty "wiff" play. Doughty had decent coverage but overpursued. Not really much to explain here.

And thats the last play. Anyway as we can see Doughty didn't do nearly as bad as people think. If anything I'd be worried about the play of the linebackers.

[That Guy]

can we stop double posting across threads :/ what's the point of having two threads when half the posts are the same in both of them...