2011 NFL Draft

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I agree with this with the exception of #3. I think that drafting a guard in the second round is a reach. Shanny has been able to find good guards in rounds 3-5 in past drafts. I know guard is an area of need, but I would rather address this through free agency.

I really think the only positions that can be counted out in early rounds are kicker & punter. Even then, I recall Chip Lohmiller as a 2nd round pick back in the day & he won a lot of games for us. That was when this team had great personel acquisition & FO mgmt.

With that said, a guard in the top 15 picks would have to be as good or better than Steve Hutchinson, but if the best player on the board is a guard & you know you need 1 or 2, I don't see it as a reach at all. This team just better make sure it isn't wrong on these first 2 picks.

[diehard]

Kiper is the best. What a great guy. He's the same in person (and over the phone) talking to the average joe about the draft. I'll buy his publication again this year to show support..

[warriorzpath]

I think the better approach to evaluating film, especially with a qb, would be: to NOT ONLY watch highlights but also look at he does from play to play in a game and also watch the situational plays that are critical to winning like redzone or plays with blitzes. How does the qb handle himself then?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think the better approach to evaluating film, especially with a qb, would be: to NOT ONLY watch highlights but also look at he does from play to play in a game and also watch the situational plays that are critical to winning like redzone or plays with blitzes. How does the qb handle himself then?

Crucial. Youtube highlights tend to showcase only the good plays. To see the troublesome plays, you need to watch the game in its natural flow.

[skinsfaninok]

No secret: Vikings plan to draft a QB - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

Maybe we can trade down to 12 and pick up another 2nd from Min..

[IrMitchell]

If we decide to go defense in round 1, I've got a few theories after watching film.
Over-hyped:
Aldon Smith - Don't see it with him. Sure he's a freakish athlete, but it ends there.
J.J. Watt - This guy is as slow as they come. Nothing stands out at all. Did I mention he's slow?
Cameron Hayward - Underwhelming with everything he does. Gives up on plays, isn't great on the rush.. Don't like him
Da'Quan Bowers - Way too much time spent doing nothing. He did have a breakout year, but he wasn't anything special last year. I wouldn't draft him top 7.

Future Stars (My Opinion):
Ryan Kerrigan - This guy is Clay Matthews. He out muscles his opponents, never quits, stands out in every game. Taking him at #10 will pay huge dividends to us later.
Von Miller - Beast. Has a great pass rush, but an even better ability to make a big tackle.
Prince Amukamara - If He falls we can't pass him up. Patrick Peterson is without a doubt the better corner, but Amukamara is being overlooked as the "2nd best corner". He's a future shutdown corner with ability to tackle in the box.

My targets:
#1 Blaine Gabbert
#2 Prince Amukamara
#3 Ryan Kerrigan
#4 Von Miller
#5 Jake Locker

[Longtimefan]

2011 NFL Draft: A Surprising Late Round Savior For The Washington Redskins | Bleacher Report

[diehard]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

2011 NFL Draft: A Surprising Late Round Savior For The Washington Redskins | Bleacher Report

Who's not looking at the kid...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by diehard

Who's not looking at the kid...

Those with a proven kicker.....some of them may be looking when you're talking about a guy considered the best kicker in NCAA history.

[Big C]

i think we should take a hard look at stephen paea. he is a beastly nose tackle from oregon state. 6-1 310, mid 1st round projection now, but his stock will surely rise. 49 reps of 225 at the combine. we need a nose tackle.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by Big C

i think we should take a hard look at stephen paea. he is a beastly nose tackle from oregon state. 6-1 310, mid 1st round projection now, but his stock will surely rise. 49 reps of 225 at the combine. we need a nose tackle.

He may be able to play NT but it looks like he's a better fit as a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. I think he'd definitely be an upgrade over what we currently have.

I'm all for taking the Nebraska kicker. He would instantly be probably the best kicker in D.C. well... ever.

[CultBrennan59]

I still don't see how people view Paea as a NT, he's 6'1 310. You have to be heavier for NT, plus I've watched some film on him and he can be single blocked by other Pac 10 OLineman, if thats the case, what will happen when he gets to the NFL? a NT is someone who gets double teamed every play, and controls the line of scrimmage. Paea would be engulfed by other centers, he is more of a penetrator than a pusher. Phil Taylor, Jerrell Powe, and Kenrick Ellis are NT's, Paeas a 4-3 DT not a 3-4 guy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I still don't see how people view Paea as a NT, he's 6'1 310. You have to be heavier for NT, plus I've watched some film on him and he can be single blocked by other Pac 10 OLineman, if thats the case, what will happen when he gets to the NFL? a NT is someone who gets double teamed every play, and controls the line of scrimmage. Paea would be engulfed by other centers, he is more of a penetrator than a pusher. Phil Taylor, Jerrell Powe, and Kenrick Ellis are NT's, Paeas a 4-3 DT not a 3-4 guy.

Why couldn't he put on 20 lbs?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why couldn't he put on 20 lbs?

He could but theres putting on 20 lbs and it effecting your game in a positive way, then theres putting on 20lbs and it effects your game in a negative way...Paea would need to put on 30 lbs IMO to be anywhere near NT affective.

Plus he's coming off an injury and supposedly he's injury prone, so I don't really like this guy so..next player please

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He could but theres putting on 20 lbs and it effecting your game in a positive way, then theres putting on 20lbs and it effects your game in a negative way...Paea would need to put on 30 lbs IMO to be anywhere near NT affective.

Plus he's coming off an injury and supposedly he's injury prone, so I don't really like this guy so..next player please

he'd also need to grow about 2 inches in height. As a 3-4 NT, he would need to be tall enough to see the flow of the play in hopes of redirecting traffic. As a 4-3 DT, he's tall enough as his job would be penetrating into the backfield...