Steelers @ Redskins (Pre season game 2)

[That Guy]

there's generally only one reason bad players stay on rosters/in lineups:

teams don't have better options to replace them with.


if we had money maybe we could have signed vollmer, but we didn't, so pashos and trueblood came in from the vet min scrap heap and haven't shown to be an upgrade at this point, so... we are what we are.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by That Guy

there's generally only one reason bad players stay on rosters/in lineups:

teams don't have better options to replace them with.


if we had money maybe we could have signed vollmer, but we didn't, so pashos and trueblood came in from the vet min scrap heap and haven't shown to be an upgrade at this point, so... we are what we are.

Good point. One could make a similar argument for our secondary.

[JoLo]

Originally Posted by That Guy

there's generally only one reason bad players stay on rosters/in lineups:

teams don't have better options to replace them with.


if we had money maybe we could have signed vollmer, but we didn't, so pashos and trueblood came in from the vet min scrap heap and haven't shown to be an upgrade at this point, so... we are what we are.

Absolutely, with the cap penalty we took the past 2 offseasons it really hampered our ability to sign big name guys at certain positions of need. That is why we had to either deal with what we have, or try to get improvements through the draft. That is the biggest reason I think Leribeus was a huge mistake in the 3rd round last year. We should have grabbed a right tackle. Anyway, as long as polumbus doesnt get Robert injured this season it will be a success regardless. Then I am sure we will address that position next offseason. Imagine the roster we have now then going into next offseason with some spare cash to sign a couple of probowl caliber players to add!!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Thomas and Holmes lisfranc injuries must be epic compared to his.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Got my paid Fantasy Football league draft tonight, dropping him in the rankings, thanks

Was going to draft him in mine but guy right in front of me took him and I ended up with as R Mathews as my RB3 guy.

[That Guy]

yeah, i think we all thought leribeus was a big mistake at the time, and so far he hasn't exactly proved anyone wrong.


maybe he's a late bloomer, but i wouldn't be placing any bets on it.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by That Guy

yeah, i think we all thought leribeus was a big mistake at the time, and so far he hasn't exactly proved anyone wrong.


maybe he's a late bloomer, but i wouldn't be placing any bets on it.

If he doesn't stop blowing up in the offseason he won't be around long. That seems to be his problem since highschool, he hits the offseason and does not prepare himself for the next year of football. You can't do that in the NFL it may have been ok in college but that won't fly in the pros.

[Green Monk Machine]

Yeah if LeRibeus fails us, it will sting worse if Gettis also can't make an impact. I optimistic we will find a starting RT and G in the draft, keep Tyler as a backup, and have competition with Chester. Then have FA to find a LDE, MLB, and S. I am worried enough with Tyler playing, can't really expect any OL injuries to not be a huge blow.

Has MHurt been active at all in preaseason games?
Replay of steelers game @4pm on nfl network

[MTK]

Hurt is still on the PUP list.

[SirLK26]

1. Grossman can pass.

2. White can't pass.

3. Run-first quarterbacks can't compete in the NFL.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

1. Grossman can pass.

2. White can't pass.

3. Run-first quarterbacks can't compete in the NFL.

Ding Ding Ding ... we have a winner.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

1. Grossman can pass.

2. White can't pass.

3. Run-first quarterbacks can't compete in the NFL.

Yep, I'm proven wrong yet again.... thats why PW has a better passer rating. 57% to 53%.

Hello folks the option rely's on a QB who CAN run so the defense does not key on just the RB and WR. RG1 can not run. Proven by his -7 rushing yrds.

P.S. I'll take my chicken dinner.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Yep, I'm proven wrong yet again.... thats why PW has a better passer rating. 57% to 53%.

Hello folks the option rely's on a QB who CAN run so the defense does not key on just the RB and WR. RG1 can not run. Proven by his -7 rushing yrds.

P.S. I'll take my chicken dinner.

The quarterback also has to be able to pass or the defense will stack the box and focus exclusively on stopping the run. No threat of passing would destroy our offense. Part of the reason it works so well with RG3 is because defenses are just as scared of his golden arm as they are of his golden legs.

Rex Grossman can pass, but not run. Pat White can run, but not pass. Like I said before, run-first quarterbacks can't compete in the NFL. An offense run by Grossman would operate much better than one run by White. No one wants either Grossman or White to get extensive playing time during the regular season. But if it came to that, I would want definitely want Grossman over White.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

1. Grossman can pass.

2. White can't pass.

3. Run-first quarterbacks can't compete in the NFL.

What gives anyone the idea Grossman is a better passer? PW had a better passer completion ratio.

Personally I think RG1 knows he is stuck passing or handing the ball off to the RB so obviously he is going to do just those two things.

PW is a triple threat. I think what people are not wanting to realize is PW probably looked down field and saw good coverage so he took off running.

Now if you said no he had a ton of over throws or balls that didn't make it to the WR or dirt balls or INT's then I'd agree with you. But no one has proven that. They just blindly say RG1 is better. The stats don't prove it though.

What we know is RG1 made more passing att. because he can't run. PW made less att. because he CAN run if need be. Why is RG3 so effective? because not only can he pass or hand the ball off he also can run if NEED be.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

...What gives anyone the idea Grossman is a better passer? PW had a better passer completion ratio...

The notion that White, a scrub who has been out of the NFL for 3 years, is a better passer than Grossman, who has started a Super Bowl, is absurd at best.

Preseason stats: Grossman has the edge in every stat but completion percentage. And I won't even go into career stats. Edit: And, like ThatGuy said, context is everything; Grossman was playing against better defenses.

Grossman: 20-37, 54.1%, 252 yards, 6.8 yards per attempt, 2 TDs, 1 INT, long of 23, 1 sack, 82.3 QB raring.

White: 8-14, 57.1%, 53 yards, 3.8 yards per attempt, 0 TDs, 1 INT, long of 13, 1 sack, 35.7 QB rating. Grossman>White!