Ron Rivera Thread

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

January 9th, 2020. The day that people decide Dwayne Haskins is a bum and we should move on. Took longer than I thought.

[Kope]

Unless Alex Smith demonstrates significant physical capability between now and free agency, you still need to sign a veteran QB anyway to compete with him.

I think Alex is going to surprise people with his physical capability. That is one driven, committed dude, no form all function.

[MTK]

I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost


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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost

The only way Rivers ends up here is if the Skins kidnap him muppet style.

https://youtu.be/FOBILqLviF4

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The only way Rivers ends up here is if the Skins kidnap him muppet style.



https://youtu.be/FOBILqLviF4

Glad to see that JR is back. And posting higher quality material then ever.

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[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost


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Lol. Hey Philip, how would you like to end your HOF career?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Lol. Hey Philip, how would you like to end your HOF career?

I don’t see Phillip Rivers as a HOFer. You up got to bring more to the table than 4000 yard regular season stats to get a jacket.

Exhibit A: His career playoff record is 3-4.

Exhibit B: He has never played in a Super Bowl.

Exhibit C: His career playoff stats are as follows:

Game 1 (Loss, 24-21 vs. New England): 14-32, 230 YD, 0 TD, 1 INT.

Game 2 (Win, 17-6 vs. Tennessee): 19-30, 292 YD, 1TD, 1 INT.

Game 3 (Win, 28-24 vs. Indianapolis): 14-19, 264 YD, 3 TD, 1 INT.

Game 4 (Loss, 21-12 vs. New England): 19-37, 211 YD, 0 TD, 2 INT.

Game 5 (Win, 23-17 vs. Indianapolis): 20-36, 217 YD, 0 TD, 1 INT.

Game 6 (Loss, 35-24 vs. Pittsburgh): 21-35, 308 YD, 3 TD, 1 INT.

Game 7 (Loss, 17-14 vs. NYJ): 27-40, 298 YD, 1 TD, 2 INT.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don’t see Rivers as a backup or low cost


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He could land in Chicago , I think a solid backup for us could be Mariota

[Schneed10]

BHA nobody is wrong more often than you are.

[JoeRedskin]

So ... I am fine with the housecleaning. Remove Allen and Gruden and any vestiges of the prior regime by root and claw. As someone has already pointed out, trading out the Skins staff/FO for Carolina's staff/FO is an upgrade.

Further, both his OC and DC are different from his time there. He may have been familiar with both but they were not in these roles while he coached Carolina. Further, as much as many wanted an untested KOC, RR still went with a shiny young coach in his first stint as OC in Turner. He provided Turner a staff with whom Turner and RR were familiar to help the 1st time OC find his feet.

As to the FO, again, I would rather RR have a FO he is confident in then one that may be on a different page - even if he moves on from people we think are talented.

Preliminarily, I just don't think parting ways with Schaffer is a body blow to the organization. Sure, he is talented, but, truthfully, I don't recall Carolina having "cap hell" problems. Was Schaeffer more than a money guy? I think but did he bring an irreplaceable skill set to an otherwise number crunching position? Not sure. Find it hard to believe though. Moving Doug Williams to a senior mentoring position seems a good fit for him. I had hoped he was an Ozzie Newsome in the making but get the feeling he really did not have the "it" factor that Ozzie and other successful personnel guys have.
I do think Kyle Smith has that though and the fact he is not out of the building yet may mean that he is getting a longer look. I would not be surprised, however, if Santos is gone after the draft.

There are reports that both RR and the Skins draft folks (read: K. Smith) both love Chase Young. This may be a point of commonality for them going forward and something on which to build a working relationship.

Finally, the authority given to RR by DS is pretty evident. The decision to move on from Schaeffer is huge b/c he was also the General Counsel to the Skins meaning he had Snyder's ear and was likely someone on whom DS relied for more than just player personnel and capology advice. The fact that he is now gone should send a clear message to the entire organization that Riverboat Ron is running the show now and that DS is all good with that.

RR is the new authority in town and I am ALL good with that.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

So ... I am fine with the housecleaning. Remove Allen and Gruden and any vestiges of the prior regime by root and claw. As someone has already pointed out, trading out the Skins staff/FO for Carolina's staff/FO is an upgrade.



Further, both his OC and DC are different from his time there. He may have been familiar with both but they were not in these roles while he coached Carolina. Further, as much as many wanted an untested KOC, RR still went with a shiny young coach in his first stint as OC in Turner. He provided Turner a staff with whom Turner and RR were familiar to help the 1st time OC find his feet.



As to the FO, again, I would rather RR have a FO he is confident in then one that may be on a different page - even if he moves on from people we think are talented.



Preliminarily, I just don't think parting ways with Schaffer is a body blow to the organization. Sure, he is talented, but, truthfully, I don't recall Carolina having "cap hell" problems. Was Schaeffer more than a money guy? I think but did he bring an irreplaceable skill set to an otherwise number crunching position? Not sure. Find it hard to believe though. Moving Doug Williams to a senior mentoring position seems a good fit for him. I had hoped he was an Ozzie Newsome in the making but get the feeling he really did not have the "it" factor that Ozzie and other successful personnel guys have.

I do think Kyle Smith has that though and the fact he is not out of the building yet may mean that he is getting a longer look. I would not be surprised, however, if Santos is gone after the draft.



There are reports that both RR and the Skins draft folks (read: K. Smith) both love Chase Young. This may be a point of commonality for them going forward and something on which to build a working relationship.



Finally, the authority given to RR by DS is pretty evident. The decision to move on from Schaeffer is huge b/c he was also the General Counsel to the Skins meaning he had Snyder's ear and was likely someone on whom DS relied for more than just player personnel and capology advice. The fact that he is now gone should send a clear message to the entire organization that Riverboat Ron is running the show now and that DS is all good with that.



RR is the new authority in town and I am ALL good with that.

Well said.

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[Warthog]

KOC went to the Rams not to call offensive plays but to LEARN under McVay. This means that O’Connell was not the finished product that many of us thought he was. He has potential but we must remember that the Redskins offense was last in the NFL. Some of that was Callahan’s ridiculous adherence to a “run heavy” offense with a banged-up, replacement OL. But I look at McVay as seeing potential in KOC, but NOT ready for prime time.

We’ll see if Scott Turner can bring the Redskin’s offense out of the cellar.


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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Warthog

KOC went to the Rams not to call offensive plays but to LEARN under McVay. This means that O’Connell was not the finished product that many of us thought he was. He has potential but we must remember that the Redskins offense was last in the NFL. Some of that was Callahan’s ridiculous adherence to a “run heavy” offense with a banged-up, replacement OL. But I look at McVay as seeing potential in KOC, but NOT ready for prime time.

We’ll see if Scott Turner can bring the Redskin’s offense out of the cellar.


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Wrong, he went to become Matt LaFleur part 2, the Rams offense went downhill after he left last year. You are underestimating KOC.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Wrong, he went to become Matt LaFleur part 2, the Rams offense went downhill after he left last year. You are underestimating KOC.

The Titans offense got better once LaFleur left.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Titans offense got better once LaFleur left.

To be fair, the offense got better when Tannehill replaced Mariota..