Redskins vs. Jaguars Thread

[MTK]

I think starting the season on PUP is likely for Kelly, unless his knee is seriously f'd up. Hopefully he just needs some rest and more rehab.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Our two rookie picks on the second round IMO were a waste if we wanted to improve our offense this year. We should have used one of our 2nd round picks to trade for a veteran wideout or aggressively gone after one in free agency. I know we wanted to not be agressive, but I don't think Thomas and Kelly were the answer. They could develop in two years, but unless we're in a rebuilding mode, they are not going to help.

I just want to point out that Chad Johnson, sorry Chad Ocho Cinco, is playing with a torn labrum so who knows how he will be. Javon Walker was stinking it up in preseason and was way, way down the depth chart and only caught a break because Drew Carter is out for the year. Ditto Bryant Johnson who, as recently as last week was actually 5th on the depth chart as he's battled injuries. DJ Hackett, as usual, has been hurt all preseason and is wasting a chance to start with Steve Smith out a couple of games.

So it's not all cotton candy and lollipops out in veteran WR land either. Just sayin.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

I think we are all sweating a bit skinny. Even the most optomistic poster on this site has to admit....they feel a little bit of sinking in their stomachs at the sight of the offense yesterday. All we can do is cross our fingers, yell at cerrato, crucify dan snyder, and pray...pray to reverend gonna change

Not really... it's tough to gauge anything with just 7 plays and a handful of starters out.

Last night was wash in my eyes. We really didn't learn much of anything.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not really... it's tough to gauge anything with just 7 plays and a handful of starters out.

Last night was wash in my eyes. We really didn't learn much of anything.

Tough to gauge? What happend to the Zornometer???? ... ha ha ha...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Did anyone also see on that one play where Erasmus James actually got tackled by the OT right before he sacked the QB and it didn't get called?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I just want to point out that Chad Johnson, sorry Chad Ocho Cinco, is playing with a torn labrum so who knows how he will be. Javon Walker was stinking it up in preseason and was way, way down the depth chart and only caught a break because Drew Carter is out for the year. Ditto Bryant Johnson who, as recently as last week was actually 5th on the depth chart as he's battled injuries. DJ Hackett, as usual, has been hurt all preseason and is wasting a chance to start with Steve Smith out a couple of games.

So it's not all cotton candy and lollipops out in veteran WR land either. Just sayin.

I was all aboard on the pickup Bryant Johnson bandwagon too...

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I just want to point out that Chad Johnson, sorry Chad Ocho Cinco, is playing with a torn labrum so who knows how he will be. Javon Walker was stinking it up in preseason and was way, way down the depth chart and only caught a break because Drew Carter is out for the year. Ditto Bryant Johnson who, as recently as last week was actually 5th on the depth chart as he's battled injuries. DJ Hackett, as usual, has been hurt all preseason and is wasting a chance to start with Steve Smith out a couple of games.

So it's not all cotton candy and lollipops out in veteran WR land either. Just sayin.

Great point SS.. For all of the LaCanforas of the world who love to point out problems without any barometer of the factual options, we are at exactly the same place we would have been if we'd have splurged in free agency, EXCEPT we have 2 young players with moderate contracts vs. older players with more expensive contracts.

[firstdown]

Well I have back JC ever sense he was drafted and I laughed at people jumping all over Colt. Well i'm starting to stop laughing and have the feeling that JC might not be the guy to run this team. I'm still in his corner but he needs to pick up his game and show improvement with each game. I'm not asking for him to lead us to the SB this year but he better show more then what he has over the past three weeks. It just seems that Colt has that swager about him which shows on the field. Even though he has failed to score in the past couple of game it just seems that the O clicks better when he is out there. The one person who looked like they where playing to make the team last night was Justin. Our run D looked good last night but it reminds me of our D back in 2006. Remember when we would hold a team to 3rd and long only to give up a big play.

[over the mountain]

^^^ yeah firstdown my thoughts exactly about JC. I am just surprised it seems he still has the same bad mechanics since we drafted him. Holding the ball low, takes a big wind up to throw it, doesnt seem to have the mental IQ to read and pick apart defenses. JC does have alot of positives aswell but he might be years away from "it" clicking in his head. Ive said this before and noone has bit on it yet but . . if zorn doesnt feel confident with JC after this year, does he get to handpick his own qb next offseason giving campbell 1 more year to show us he is elite while zorns qb develops? in this league i dont think you can be complacent with average at qb.

go skins!

[irish]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

This post makes little sense. Suppose we patched problems through free agency as opposed to building through the draft. What do Dline's size, the dback's height, the WR's "it" factor, and JC's abilities have to do with building through the draft?

It means that they keep getting anyone they can get no matter how he might or might not fit the plan. If they had a long term plan and drafted according to the plan they would have players that would fit what they are trying to do. IMO the Skins keep taking other team's cast-offs (not always bad cast-offs but usually on the decline of their career) and trying to force them to fit instead of drafting and developing their own talent.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

^^^ yeah firstdown my thoughts exactly about JC. I am just surprised it seems he still has the same bad mechanics since we drafted him. Holding the ball low, takes a big wind up to throw it, doesnt seem to have the mental IQ to read and pick apart defenses. JC does have alot of positives aswell but he might be years away from "it" clicking in his head. Ive said this before and noone has bit on it yet but . . if zorn doesnt feel confident with JC after this year, does he get to handpick his own qb next offseason giving campbell 1 more year to show us he is elite while zorns qb develops? in this league i dont think you can be complacent with average at qb.

go skins!

I think even if in two years or even next year he wanted to go with his own QB, let's say Colt, it's in the best interests of everyone that he develop Campbell to the fullest extent. If not for us, then at least to drive his value up for another team.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I was super impressed with Fincher. He's the one person who actually looked like they were trying to make the team.

One positive is that the run defense looked pretty good in general.

Definate bright spot! He was all over the ball all night. Obviously, that dude wants a job

[Jacobylookalike]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

It can't get any worse then last week.

Playa, Please!

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think even if in two years or even next year he wanted to go with his own QB, let's say Colt, it's in the best interests of everyone that he develop Campbell to the fullest extent. If not for us, then at least to drive his value up for another team.

The announcers last night sure made it sound like Colt is Zorn's handpicked guy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think even if in two years or even next year he wanted to go with his own QB, let's say Colt, it's in the best interests of everyone that he develop Campbell to the fullest extent. If not for us, then at least to drive his value up for another team.

I think the team is committed to JC for this year and next at the least, which conveniently enough will take him to the end of his rookie contract. If he's not the answer at the end of 2009 both sides move on and you've got Colt entering year 3 and hopefully ready to compete for the job. If JC is the answer they re-sign him and life is good.