Our next coach??

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by franklinhimself

Don't understand your comment. Usually a hc means a new regime, new system, new qb. Zorn inherited Campbell.

I get that, but you don't need a HC to groom a QB, you need a QB coach to do that.

[diehardskin2982]

Zorn has to go, he doesnt have enough clout to manage the relationship with Snyder and Vinny.

[SmootSmack]

I think I have a bigger concern with Shanahan managing the personnel. I mean as Redskins fans we get upset that Cerrato chose to address the offensive line problem with retreads like Mike Williams and Derrick Dockery and Levi Jones. But in Denver the defensive line was a major problem and the solution was retreads like Dan Wilkinson and Leon Lett or draft busts like Gerard Warren and Courtney Brown, so is that much better?

As a coach, Shanahan is fine...though some say he's overrated.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Unfortunately, martys almost 70 and has recently said he has no desire to be a GM, let alone a hc, so there's no way he returns here or anywhere else.

[SmootSmack]

I can see Marty returning to the NFL, but really only in a front office role

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I can see Marty returning to the NFL, but really only in a front office role

I'd love it if he came here with Cowher as GM. Gibbs as president. Marty as GM. Cowher as HC. Weiss as OC. I'm sure Snyder wouldn't mind dropping 20MM a year for that setup.

[SolidSnake84]

no coach will have success here until Snyder backs off and Ceratto is gone....we need to realize that

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

no coach will have success here until Snyder backs off and Ceratto is gone....we need to realize that

I think we all realize that. The only question is whether Snyder does or not. I guess we'll find out in 5 weeks. I've never been so excited for a season to be over before.

[diehardskin2982]

people really need to realize that your not going to make Snyder sell the team. This is a passion for him. He is like us, he is a whole hearted fan as well as the owner. So we need to focus on what type of situation will work with him in it. He is the one piece of the equation that will not change.

[dmek25]

Jim Fassel lost to the giants in the super bowl?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by dmek25

Jim Fassel lost to the giants in the super bowl?

LOL, i'll make an edit.

[celts32]

My list would be in this order:

1. Gruden -I know he's out.
2. Cowher- I like him because I think he has a good sense of what it takes to run a good football organization from his time in Pitt.
3. Shanahan- As others have mentioned...I like him as a coach but he seems to have the same free agent mentality that we need to get away from in our front office.
4. Grimm- I like obviously that he's a skin but he's also worked in that Pitt organization and would bring some of that experience. What i don't like about him is that he's never been a head coach and does not have the clout to keep Snyder from meddling. He would need to be in a package with a strong GM that had complete authority.
5. Greg Williams- I am assuming Vinny is gone here. I think he would be in the same situation as Grimm though...he won't get full control so if there is no strong GM in place it could be more of the same.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by celts32

My list would be in this order:

1. Gruden -I know he's out.
2. Cowher- I like him because I think he has a good sense of what it takes to run a good football organization from his time in Pitt.
3. Shanahan- As others have mentioned...I like him as a coach but he seems to have the same free agent mentality that we need to get away from in our front office.
4. Grimm- I like obviously that he's a skin but he's also worked in that Pitt organization and would bring some of that experience. What i don't like about him is that he's never been a head coach and does not have the clout to keep Snyder from meddling. He would need to be in a package with a strong GM that had complete authority.
5. Greg Williams- I am assuming Vinny is gone here. I think he would be in the same situation as Grimm though...he won't get full control so if there is no strong GM in place it could be more of the same.

I like your list and the general order of it. Mine would go Cowher, Gruden, Holmgren, Greg Williams, Mooch, Shanahan, Fassel, Jerry Gray, and The Field (which includes several offensive coordinators out there like Russ Grimm). In the event we went with the field, we would need atleast I'd want atleast proven playcallers on the coaching staff (as opposed to, you know, the zero we had when Zorn was hired).

[The Goat]

Does anybody else think the GM position is more important for us than HC at this point?

...I don't really know that many GM candidates. I would like to see who you guys think is best for GM?

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Does anybody else think the GM position is more important for us than HC at this point?

...I don't really know that many GM candidates. I would like to see who you guys think is best for GM?

Yes, I agree the Goat we could do like Atlanta get a great GM and a good coach, and let him put the right talent in place for the coach. I wouldn't mind a turnaround like that.