Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

SmootSmack · 10-29-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

As much as I like Kyle, I simply think he's too young at this stage for a HC job. I have no doubt about his abilities, but will players respect a guy who might be the same age or even younger than some of the guys he's coaching.

The players already do respect him. He really earned their respect when he took the high road against McNabb's abuse the summer of 2010

But that's neither here nor there. If the team that may want to hire him as HC actually does it will be very exciting to see. If the team that he wants to go to hires him to be the assistant HC, it will be very curious to see

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-29-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The players already do respect him. He really earned their respect when he took the high road against McNabb's abuse the summer of 2010

But that's neither here nor there. If the team that may want to hire him as HC actually does it will be very exciting to see. If the team that he wants to go to hires him to be the assistant HC, it will be very curious to see

And why doesn't he want to wait 1-2 more years and be the HC here?

JoeRedskin · 10-29-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Fire our bipolar fan base.

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Strong post.

Words cannot express my appreciation for the sublime brilliance of this exchange.

los panda · 10-29-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

And why doesn't he want to wait 1-2 more years and be the HC here?

maybe he don't want to be brought up to do like his daddy done

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-29-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's possible but not likely. He's got potentially two great offers. One as HC. One as Assistant HC. Depending on how some things shake out.

Kyle isn't necessarily the heir apparent here anyway.

If things happen as I expect they might, they won't be starting from scratch

Other than the eagles, I don't foresee any "attractive" HC openings. Why not wait 1-2 years to be HC here. If he's not heir apparent then who is? There's no one else on this staff worthy of being higher than they already are.

Id "fire" mike in a heartbeat if it meant keeping Kyle. Rg3 has benefitted for having a bright young OC like Kyle. With anyone else I see him taking a step back.

SmootSmack · 10-29-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

And why doesn't he want to wait 1-2 more years and be the HC here?

Maybe he will wait. But if the right offer is there now, he may not want to

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-29-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Maybe he will wait. But if the right offer is there now, he may not want to

I just can't see any situations for him where he'd be working with a talent like RG3. He can do things with rg3 he won't be able to do with any other quarterback. If he leaves and goes somewhere else, I'd view it as an indictment on the organization and a sign that we haven't moved on from the snyderatto stench as much as we believe.

SmootSmack · 10-29-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I just can't see any situations for him where he'd be working with a talent like RG3. He can do things with rg3 he won't be able to do with any other quarterback. If he leaves and goes somewhere else, I'd view it as an indictment on the organization and a sign that we haven't moved on from the snyderatto stench as much as we believe.

That's quite a ridiculous leap to make

Alvin Walton · 10-29-2012, 07:24 PM

LOL....Kyle Littleshan is a child.
He hasnt done anything in the NFL yet.
please......

diehardskin2982 · 10-29-2012, 07:51 PM

I hope we keep kyle. I think the Panther's will make a run at him when the season is over. Especially if we make the playoffs. What he is doing this year with RG3 is something that many said couldn't be done in the NFL.

NC_Skins · 10-29-2012, 09:45 PM

Speaking of Mike, this is a good article I read over on Hogs Haven.

Mike Shanahan is My Uncle - Hogs Haven

punch it in · 10-30-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

See, what did I tell you Punch?

That was the last post i saw before my phone and electric went down. Too funny.

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punch it in · 10-30-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scowan

You know all this talk about Haslett, I am actually OK with our 3-4 set up, we have been pretty good against the run until this past week. Its the secondary that is playing like crap. That being said they probably need a change at Defensive coordinator. I mean you can't be last in the league verses the pass and think everything is OK. The NFL doesn't work that way. It very results oriented and if you don't get it done, changes happen and folks get fired.

I feel like a broken record but here i go again Teams dont run on us - not because they cant - but because they dont have to. Would you? I wouldnt - id pass till the cows came home. When teams do want to run on us they gash us.
Edit: even before this week. Look at yards per average against us to see the true picture. Not total yards unless you look at attempts too. Total yards can be very deceiving.

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SolidSnake84 · 10-30-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I hope we keep kyle. I think the Panther's will make a run at him when the season is over. Especially if we make the playoffs. What he is doing this year with RG3 is something that many said couldn't be done in the NFL.

Playoffs....PLAYOFFS? Don't talk about Playoffs

okay my impersonation is over.

Seriously though, I do not believe the skins will make the playoffs. I know we really only had one truly inept game against Pittsburgh, but i think the poor defense was finally exposed and it's hard to imagine winning many games like that, unless it is just an offensive shoot out that comes down to the last drive of the game, etc..

If we do get in the playoffs, we are going to need a lot of help, and we have to at least win all of our division games. My prediction this year is that we must be 9-7. I don't think 8-8 would do it, but we will see. If we can turn things around, who knows. But we are in a position now where we have to win 6 games, and the schedule gets rough here soon.

ForkLifter · 10-30-2012, 11:54 AM

What I see developing here for Mike Shannahan is this: The defense obviously has issues, and would be a hell of a lot better without the injuries. The offense is average without Griffin, perhaps one of the best (top 5) in the NFL now with Griffin. The media is going to push this whole "its all RG3 and he's not getting any help" stuff down the throats of the rest of the team until resentment sets in. The media is going to create a rift in the locker room, Shannahan added to it with his post-game comments (he needs some help), so expect things to get worse as the season progresses. It going to be near impossible to improve that defense with the draft pick situation and the cap penalty.

Shannahan faces an uphill battle to keep his job after this season. One has to ask: Can't just about anyone be competitive with RG3 playing the way he is? The 3-4 defense experiment is a disaster, we never had the right personnel (Orakpo as a linebacker?? come on...), and there's little opportunity to improve.

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10-29-2012, 07:24 PM	#399
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? LOL....Kyle Littleshan is a child. He hasnt done anything in the NFL yet. please...... __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

10-29-2012, 07:51 PM	#400
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? I hope we keep kyle. I think the Panther's will make a run at him when the season is over. Especially if we make the playoffs. What he is doing this year with RG3 is something that many said couldn't be done in the NFL. __________________ That got ugly fast

10-29-2012, 09:45 PM	#401
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,420	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Speaking of Mike, this is a good article I read over on Hogs Haven. Mike Shanahan is My Uncle - Hogs Haven __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

10-30-2012, 11:54 AM	#405
ForkLifter Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Down by the river Age: 45 Posts: 40	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? What I see developing here for Mike Shannahan is this: The defense obviously has issues, and would be a hell of a lot better without the injuries. The offense is average without Griffin, perhaps one of the best (top 5) in the NFL now with Griffin. The media is going to push this whole "its all RG3 and he's not getting any help" stuff down the throats of the rest of the team until resentment sets in. The media is going to create a rift in the locker room, Shannahan added to it with his post-game comments (he needs some help), so expect things to get worse as the season progresses. It going to be near impossible to improve that defense with the draft pick situation and the cap penalty. Shannahan faces an uphill battle to keep his job after this season. One has to ask: Can't just about anyone be competitive with RG3 playing the way he is? The 3-4 defense experiment is a disaster, we never had the right personnel (Orakpo as a linebacker?? come on...), and there's little opportunity to improve.

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