2021 NFL Draft Day!!

[vallin21]

(5) Terry, Samuel, Brown, Humphries, C Sims. A decent 5 on paper

Might keep 6 with Harmon, AGG, S. Sims, Wright fighting for the last spot

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Dynamic Brown. I fucking love this draft.

ESPN analyst said Brown was mocked in bottom first to mid 2nd round. Great get!

[Ohioskins]

Seems to me we are reaching with these picks.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

Seems to me we are reaching with these picks.

Very possible.

Lotsa high ceiling guys. Time will tell.

[skinsfaninok]

You reach in these rounds. It’s not like WR is a huge need for us. I’m cool with it

[punch it in]

I dont think any of our picks are reaches. I think they are solid picks going right around where they were projected to go.
You want to see a team reaching? Check out the Raiders.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I dont think any of our picks are reaches. I think they are solid picks going right around where they were projected to go.
You want to see a team reaching? Check out the Raiders.

For sure

[Scalper]

Dynami Brown – WR – B

Hunter Long goes one pick before us right after we reached on a CB that probably would have been there 10 picks later. JOK goes one pick after us. Hmmmmm. . .

Within the constraints of drafting for what seems like need, we have added players at high leverage positions, CB and WR, where signing good FAs is incredibly expensive. Smart.

Anyone still harbouring doubts about what kind of WR the new FO likes, LOL. . . Speed. Baby.

This is the first pick that could possibly be an honest BPA pick to significant degree.

Brown is listed at 6’1” but probably just 6 feet. Decent size for a burner. He is a one trick pony, a deep threat who can go vertical and take top off D, though does not have crushing speed in this regard. He was viewed as a late 2nd to early 3rd pick by most, a mid 2nd round pick by some.

We are going to be cutting a few good WRs this year. You wonder how many smurf burners the FO wants, LOL. We have McL, Samuels, both burners. We have Humphries a quick slot guy. We now have Brown. Then our three long striders, Golden, Sims, Harmon. That’s 7 guys. Do we keep 7 WRs? Plus Carter return specialist. Is Humphries expendable? Golden after just one year? Harmon? Sims, who is FA and thus may cost money to resign vs. other guys on rookie deals? Can you imagine 3 WR sets with Brown, McL, Samuels. Holy crap. One of those guys is going to torch a 3rd CB or safety for sure. Every one a legit burner. Four WR sets with Humphries slot as well? Be interesting to see who FO keeps, but one thing seems certain: underachieving long strider big WRs on our roster have been served notice to produce or hit the bricks. At a minimum, you would think Golden gets another year because RR chose him and only had one year. McL Samuel not going anywhere. Brown sticks assume. That is McL, Samuel, Brown, Golden, plus 2-3 more. Harmon coming into 3rd year hasn’t produced much, but is Sims better? Should be interesting battle for backend of WR depth.

So why is Brown sitting there in 3rd round if rated much higher? He is a long strider, with little quickness. He’ll torch you on deep routes, but not much else. He got by in college by simply sprinting by slower players and fighting for contested balls, and while he can still do that some in pros, there will be a lot more DBs that can keep up with him and won’t get torched. He’ll be able to torch many though, especially if 1st CB on McL and 2nd on Samuel. He should be able to torch a lot of 3rd CBs. What sticks out at you on tape is that unless he blows by a guy deep he NEVER seems open. Far too many catches are contested, and while he makes the highlight-reel catches a lot, there don’t seem to be a ton of catches where he actually generates separation, and this is against some lesser college talent. On one level, this is more what the NFL is like, but if he can’t get consistent separation in college, what is going to happen in NFL against MUCH better DBs. In this sense, there is a huge gap between Brown and McL, who has great quickness and ran fairly polished routes right out of college. Brown seems to have really minimal quickness on anything but deep routes (where he separates with speed, not quickness and takes time to get up to speed), and his route running seems incredibly sloppy and his head fakes, body fakes, etc., ability to juke defender, is horrible. This seems to be why he is never open or gets great separation on anything but deep balls. Maybe he can learn all that, maybe there were more accomplished players, but guys that run low 4.4 40s at 6 feet, while not rare, are also not common. Worst case is probably a situational deep threat who routinely torches 3rd or 4th CBs, but expecting a dominant WR like McL may be a pipe dream. It will probably take major work to get him to run competent routes, and he may never have the quickness to generate separation on anything but deep balls.

I can’t help but think of a guy like Nico Collins instead, but how different is he from our other big WRs?

A speed demon like this in mid-3rd isn’t a horrible pick. Forsaking TE to go CB and WR, higher leverage, is not horrible within the constraints of what is clearly a need focused draft. TEs are cheaper than WRs, but great TEs also much rarer, FO might have been gritting teeth when Henry taken. On the other hand, he is a 3rd round guy, and may have been a 4th if we passed, because he is a one trick pony with major quickness deficit and horrible route running and separation on anything but a deep out or streak pattern. Even on those patterns he doesn’t sell the route effectively and essentially just takes off sprinting. I am guessing that our FO wants a TE with, you guessed it, speed, so that we can have every potential catcher in certain packages be a relative of Flash Gordon. Be interesting to see what we do at TE later in draft, though getting Reyes may have made us decide to deemphasize that need a bit.

Blazer with serious holes in game, that some had rated a bit higher, not an A, not a C, a B pick solely on the elite speed and modest value attained.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

Seems to me we are reaching with these picks.

Fixated on need for sure, but Brown first pick that approaches being BPA.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

Very possible.

Lotsa high ceiling guys. Time will tell.

Well spoken, high ceiling.
FO absolutely rolling dice that coaches can do their jobs. But that's what usually happens when the coach is the GM. Usually doesn't work out so well, but let's be optimistic.

[skinsfaninok]

Another great pick for Washington!

Dyami Brown was a Round 2 receiver. He's capable of being a Deebo Samuel-type receiver. Very good YAC ability.

Four picks. Four home runs.

Matt Miller

[punch it in]

We certainly are a fast team. That is for sure. On both sides of the ball.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Kelvin Joseph to Dallas is perfect ... dude is a serious head case. Talented. But trouble.

Like Lloyd Christmas says, I like it a lot.

[FrenchSkin]

Seriously... except a second TE, and admitting Cosmi is ready to start as our LT... do you guys see a legit hole in our roster ?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Seriously... except a second TE, and admitting Cosmi is ready to start as our LT... do you guys see a legit hole in our roster ?

Not really. FS, K?