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BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Old 12-17-2009, 03:03 PM   #1
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The Bruce Allen presser was pretty good. He didn't throw anything out there to make you think Zorn is staying or going, but if I had to read between the lines I think Mr. Portis is done here.

Allen said he's a big proponent of practicing 52 weeks a year; Not a good one here and there. He also said that the team will be cap ready regardless of what happens with the CBA. Didn't committ on Zorn one way or another, but for the first time I'm starting to believe Zorn is gone too.
I liked that!
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:06 PM   #2
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

One more thing, until Gruden removes all doubt and releases a statement saying he's not interested, not in the running, and hasn't been contacted, he's a candidate in my opinion.

Gruden could end the speculation very easily. His silence speaks volumes.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:09 PM   #3
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One more thing, until Gruden removes all doubt and releases a statement saying he's not interested, not in the running, and hasn't been contacted, he's a candidate in my opinion.

Gruden could end the speculation very easily. His silence speaks volumes.
Still, it hasn't even been a day. Give it time.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:10 PM   #4
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE: Redskins warm up for practice today

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Old 12-17-2009, 05:43 PM   #5
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One more thing, until Gruden removes all doubt and releases a statement saying he's not interested, not in the running, and hasn't been contacted, he's a candidate in my opinion.

Gruden could end the speculation very easily. His silence speaks volumes.
Seems like Gruden hasn't removed any speculation about the chance of coming here.

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Gruden commented on Allen's hiring today in a statement released by ESPN:

"Bruce Allen is a great football mind and an even better person. His background and understanding of the Washington Redskins' tradition will be a huge asset to the Redskins. He is a leader and a great fit for this job. He's a big reason why I had any success in coaching. I'm really happy for him and I wish him the best."

Gruden and Allen also worked together in Oakland. But Gruden signed a contract extension with ESPN last month. He said at the time that he'll "probably" coach again, but he said he's enjoying his role as a Monday Night Football analyst.

"It's nice to be wanted," Gruden said of his relationship with ESPN. Gruden and Allen will get a chance to renew acquaintances soon: The Redskins host the Giants on Monday night. -- Sean Leahy
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:49 PM   #6
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Interviewed on NFL Network, Allen said,
"The burgundy and gold are special..."
"...those darn Dallas Cowboys..."

I love the Redskin pride! The first coming of Allen had us in contention almost every year...I hope that the Second Coming of Allen does the same.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:13 PM   #7
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

This is a repost from another thread:

You'll probably see me say this a lot over the next few weeks but Bruce Allen has a reputation for drafting OL early and often, especially when he was in Tampa with Gruden.

Heres a few guys that have been drafted early by Allen. First when he was a Senior Executive in Oakland and then as a GM in Tampa

1997:
3rd Round
72 Oakland Raiders Adam Treu Nebraska
85 Oakland Raiders Tim Kohn Offensive guard Iowa State

1998:
1st Round:
23 Oakland Raiders (from Tampa Bay Buccaneers) Mo Collins Offensive Tackle Florida
2nd Round:
31 Oakland Raiders Leon Bender Offensive Tackle Washington State
4th Round:
109 Oakland Raiders (from Washington) Gennaro DiNapoli Offensive Guard Virginia Tech
5th Round:
152 Oakland Raiders (from Green Bay) Travian Smith Offensive Tackle Oklahoma

1999:
1st Round:

18 Oakland Raiders Matt Stinchcomb Tackle Georgia

2002:
2nd Round:
53 Oakland Raiders (from Tampa Bay) Langston Walker Guard California

2004:
5th Round
146 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeb Terry Guard North Carolina

2005:
3rd Round:
91 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from San Diego) Chris Colmer Offensive Tackle NC State
4th Round:
107 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dan Buenning Offensive Guard Wisconsin

2006:
1st Round:
23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Davin Joseph Guard Oklahoma
2nd Round:
59 Tampa Bay Jeremy Trueblood Offensive Tackle Boston College

2007:
2nd Round:
35 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Arron Sears Offensive Tackle Tennessee

2008:
3rd Round:
83 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeremy Zuttah Offensive guard Rutgers
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

^ Wow he definitely always overloads offense linemen.. Given our history w/ injuries and such, it might be good thing..
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Only thing that worries me about Gruden is that fact that he runs a VERY complicated system. I mean it's still the WCO, but as I said before he definitely runs one of the more complex schemes in the league. Weather or not he's more complicated then Al Saunders remains to be seen.
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Only thing that worries me about Gruden is that fact that he runs a VERY complicated system. I mean it's still the WCO, but as I said before he definitely runs one of the more complex schemes in the league. Weather or not he's more complicated then Al Saunders remains to be seen.
Well I know that many have forecasted Gruden as coming here but with the whole ESPN deal it's so far only cloudy with only a chance of participation in DC.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:42 PM   #11
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Well I know that many have forecasted Gruden as coming here but with the whole ESPN deal it's so far only cloudy with only a chance of participation in DC.
Nice touch.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:42 PM   #12
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Well I know that many have forecasted Gruden as coming here but with the whole ESPN deal it's so far only cloudy with only a chance of participation in DC.
the timing is funny, there's actually a forecast for about 12 inches of snow this weekend in DC.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:19 PM   #13
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Gibbs, Beathard and Marty have all endorsed this hire. That's good enough for me. It is a move that was both wanted and needed. You won't hear me bitchin'. I'm going to enjoy the honeymoon. HTTR!!!
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:21 PM   #14
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

For those wishing Zorn is going to stay, it ain't happening. New GM's don't retain coaches. It doesn't happen at least to my recollection. I can't think of any example.
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For those wishing Zorn is going to stay, it ain't happening. New GM's don't retain coaches. It doesn't happen at least to my recollection. I can't think of any example.
I tend to agree. Zorn was unqualified when he came in and while he's done an admirable job at holding things together and keeping his chin up during a really shitty time, I'm sure one of the things Allen is working on right out of the gate is evaluating potential head coach candidates. If this is Allen's ship to run, he needs to bring in his guys.
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