Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

[celts32]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Gray may have ruined his chances to ever coach anywhere else in the league.

I agree. Gray is the one who looks bad in this. Everyone knows Zorn is fired...the Redskins are just acting proactively to move quickly on a new coach. The rules force them to interview minority candidates and they have several on staff. Gray should have declined until after the season, but if he was willing why would the redskins not get it out of the way now? Gray was not very loyal to Zorn and it could affect how other head coaches will view having him on thier staff.

[Hezekiah]

Snyder didn't make a mockery of the Rooney rule, the Rooney rule is a mockery in and of it's self.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Hezekiah

Snyder didn't make a mockery of the Rooney rule, the Rooney rule is a mockery in and of it's self.

Nice first post! I agree.

[MTK]

The Rooney rule itself is a bit of a joke at this point.

Whether a sham interview happens during the season or after, I don't see a big difference. Just more ammo for the Snyder haters if you ask me.

Perhaps Gray was promised a spot on the new staff in exchange for the interview, or perhaps he really is plan B?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The Rooney rule itself is a bit of a joke at this point.

Whether a sham interview happens during the season or after, I don't see a big difference. Just more ammo for the Snyder haters if you ask me.

Perhaps Gray was promised a spot on the new staff in exchange for the interview, or perhaps he really is plan B?

For grey to interview I'd say the first would have to be true. That said, don't see whomever shanahan brings in as DC wanting grey on Staff.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The Rooney rule itself is a bit of a joke at this point.

Whether a sham interview happens during the season or after, I don't see a big difference. Just more ammo for the Snyder haters if you ask me.

Perhaps Gray was promised a spot on the new staff in exchange for the interview, or perhaps he really is plan B?

Yes. There are some real problems here regarding the spirit of the Rooney Rule. But the press has presumed that Gray's interview was a sham because it was in-season, which ignores the fact that off-season shams are no more difficult to pull off.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes. There are some real problems here regarding the spirit of the Rooney Rule. But the press has presumed that Gray's interview was a sham because it was in-season, which ignores the fact that off-season shams are no more difficult to pull off.

Exactly. Let's say for a second Goodell told Snyder no way, you have to wait until after the season or until there is a vacancy. Snyder says fine, the second the clock hits 0:00 in San Diego Snyder sits down with Gray and boom, Rooney rule satisfied. Would it be any more legit if the timing felt better to people?

I understand people get upset that the "spirit" of the Rooney rule is being circumvented, but this happens all the time.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I understand people get upset that the "spirit" of the Rooney rule is being circumvented, but this happens all the time.

Exactly...the spirit is a joke anyways. No one has been hired because of the Rooney rule. All it has done is actually put diversity at the forefront...that is a good thing but it hasn't directly led to anyone getting a job they wouldn't have before. so 100% of the time the spirit is trampled on. The rule begs for the spirit to be trampled on.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I understand people get upset that the "spirit" of the Rooney rule is being circumvented, but this happens all the time.

Not to nitpik, but I hate when people use "this happens all the time" as an excuse. Just because it happens all the time, doesn't make it right...

Anyways, Gray interviewing has put him in limbo as far as future coaching opportunities. Which leads me to believe that he's in line to stay with the Redskins. Why jeopardize your future and your reputation if you don't have something lined up?

Gray is the scapegoat for the media and the rule, and Snyder used it to his full advantage to get the guy he wants. It's a win-win as far as Snyder's concerned. And to him, that's all that matters.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Exactly. Let's say for a second Goodell told Snyder no way, you have to wait until after the season or until there is a vacancy. Snyder says fine, the second the clock hits 0:00 in San Diego Snyder sits down with Gray and boom, Rooney rule satisfied. Would it be any more legit if the timing felt better to people?

I understand people get upset that the "spirit" of the Rooney rule is being circumvented, but this happens all the time.

It's just a shitty way to do business cause you still have a HC in place and he's getting questioned about it. It makes Zorn look like a fool. It's a bad way to treat people and it's embarassing to the team.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's just a shitty way to do business cause you still have a HC in place and he's getting questioned about it. It makes Zorn look like a fool. It's a bad way to treat people and it's embarassing to the team.

I don't think it is. It's the NFL. Owners/GM's don't wait til after the season to talk to/interview potential candidates w/ a coach who they know is gone. I'd feel worse if they waited til after JZ was fired to start the process.

Hopefully the circus will be over soon and we can expect Mike S to be around for 5+ years.

[MTK]

From all accounts it sounds as if Shanahan has a staff lined up and ready to go. It wouldn't be too hard to believe the new DC already pinpointed Gray as someone he would want. Who knows.

[SmootSmack]

I'd be surprised if Gray is on the staff, but who knows.

[diehardskin2982]

This whole rooney rule spat is being circulated by Mike Florio. I wish everyday fans could look beyond the blind hatred that most media writers and opionist have for the Redskins owner.

Did you notice on PFT that Florio loves to bring up Redskins vs. Rooney Rule but doesn't even mention the Mike Holmgren hire in Cleveland and whether they followed the Rooney rule. Read between the lines people. We could be 16-0 and the media would still hate. If the Redskins become successful we would represent a Dark Empire/ villian of the NFL.

[SmootSmack]

Well it's not the same situation with the Browns, because Jim Zorn is still employed by the Redskins as head coach. The Browns didn't have a President in place (though I think they did interview minority candidates)