Redskins vs. Steelers Game Thread

[tryfuhl]

I've grown to hate watching some other teams.. when I see Orton making clutch passes and all of these teams making solid catches/throws I wish that we had that

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Well no matter how you look you don't want to look at the stats page and see 1/7 with 10 yards, whether it's your fault or not.

1/7 is not the same as 5/35. It's an irrelevant sample size. When that's all you have, you pretty much have to trust your eyes--imperfect as that may be.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

1/7 is not the same as 5/35. It's an irrelevant sample size. When that's all you have, you pretty much have to trust your eyes--imperfect as that may be.

nay and 5/35 isn't 10/70 either you know

there were circumstances but what's the best he could've pulled from that.. 4/7 aka 57pct or so?

i guess he needs his reps.. and I think that zorn is messing up by not giving them to him

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

nay and 5/35 isn't 10/70 either you know

there were circumstances but what's the best he could've pulled from that.. 4/7 aka 57pct or so?

True.

By the end of the week 3 game, we'll have something substantial to say about Campbell's development. Even then it won't be much, but we'll be able to say "he looks better" or "he doesn't look any better".

Until then, his performance is more or less an expected constant, in my eyes at least.

[DBUCHANON101]

It burns to see other starting QB's tear it up and ours is sputtering along.. yes its preseason but still...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

nay and 5/35 isn't 10/70 either you know

there were circumstances but what's the best he could've pulled from that.. 4/7 aka 57pct or so?

i guess he needs his reps.. and I think that zorn is messing up by not giving them to him

I don't know if he needs reps, but we wasted reps by throwing two well-covered deep balls in a preseason game.

Given the penalties, the best he could have done was about 3/7 for 25-30 yards. The fact that he didn't execute perfectly on a play or two, plus a deep ball that wasn't perfectly thrown, doesn't bother me at all.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

True.

By the end of the week 3 game, we'll have something substantial to say about Campbell's development. Even then it won't be much, but we'll be able to say "he looks better" or "he doesn't look any better".

Until then, his performance is more or less an expected constant, in my eyes at least.

I'd like to see him for about a half in at least the last game.. if not the next 2

[stu_nna]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

When does poise alone score TD's?

It doesnt i just didnt see bad throws, fumbles, sacks, and indecision. Not saying he was stellar just seemed calm

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

It burns to see other starting QB's tear it up and ours is sputtering along.. yes its preseason but still...

Why does it burn? What is being proven in one quarter of play?

Good story: last year in the first quarter of games, Tyler Thigpen was a better quarterback than Peyton Manning, who won the MVP. If they both got pulled after two drives every game, the only difference would have been contract numbers.

Next week, we'll get to see 10-15 passes from Campbell, which should help a little. Zorn apparently doesn't need to see him read a defense because half of his passes are one receiver designed plays. No idea what the point of that is in the context of a preseason game.

[GusFrerotte]

THing is JC should be given some comeptition to raise his game. Why is the guy untouchable? He is not a Manning brother, Roethlisberger, Brady, McNabb, etc. He is average at best and the winning percentage of our team reflects this. It was Collins that came in when JC was hurt, went undefeated and got us in the playoffs. It is debatable at best if JC could have done the same.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't know if he needs reps, but we wasted reps by throwing two well-covered deep balls in a preseason game.

Given the penalties, the best he could have done was about 3/7 for 25-30 yards. The fact that he didn't execute perfectly on a play or two, plus a deep ball that wasn't perfectly thrown, doesn't bother me at all.

I liked the first play call... but yes it was well covered and jason campbell either by design or whatever didn't think about throwing anything BUT that ball, kind of hard to say what could have been, so we can only work with the reality

even if he went 6/7 on the next 7 we'd still be looking at 7/14, I don't know.. I need to see more chemistry between him and the receivers

[stu_nna]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I liked the first play call... but yes it was well covered and jason campbell either by design or whatever didn't think about throwing anything BUT that ball, kind of hard to say what could have been, so we can only work with the reality

even if he went 6/7 on the next 7 we'd still be looking at 7/14, I don't know.. I need to see more chemistry between him and the receivers

It seemed that throw was decided at the moment of the snap.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

THing is JC should be given some comeptition to raise his game. Why is the guy untouchable? He is not a Manning brother, Roethlisberger, Brady, McNabb, etc. He is average at best and the winning percentage of our team reflects this. It was Collins that came in when JC was hurt, went undefeated and got us in the playoffs. It is debatable at best if JC could have done the same.

He's untouchable because we have two guys who have never taken an NFL snap, and a 38 year old in a relatively foreign offense behind him.

We always had strong QB depth in the Ramsey days, but if we released all of our QBs tomorrow, only Campbell would be employed next week.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by stu_nna

It doesnt i just didnt see bad throws, fumbles, sacks, and indecision. Not saying he was stellar just seemed calm

I understand that, but still being calm doesn't mean complete passes, first downs, or scores. I think Zorn needs to give JC a nice workout next game.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's untouchable because we have two guys who have never taken an NFL snap, and a 38 year old in a relatively foreign offense behind him.

We always had strong QB depth in the Ramsey days, but if we released all of our QBs tomorrow, only Campbell would be employed next week.

who do you see going for campbell at the moment? think he'd be a guaranteed starter?