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BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Old 12-17-2009, 03:40 PM   #1
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I tend to agree. Zorn was unqualified when he came in and while he's done an admirable job at holding things together and keeping his chin up during a really shitty time, I'm sure one of the things Allen is working on right out of the gate is evaluating potential head coach candidates. If this is Allen's ship to run, he needs to bring in his guys.
Yeah I can't see him finding enough good in Zorn from a combine talk and a few weeks of the season to make him more comfortable with the Z-Man than other guys that he's known for years.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:54 PM   #2
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Yeah I can't see him finding enough good in Zorn from a combine talk and a few weeks of the season to make him more comfortable with the Z-Man than other guys that he's known for years.
The one thing that gives me pause, is the team is playing better, he is big on "team", if he feels from discussions/interactions/gut feelings, that the team is playing hard for Zorn, I could see him given one more year to finish out his contract. Again the lack of playcalling is a big conditional factor for Zorn staying.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:00 PM   #3
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The one thing that gives me pause, is the team is playing better, he is big on "team", if he feels from discussions/interactions/gut feelings, that the team is playing hard for Zorn, I could see him given one more year to finish out his contract. Again the lack of playcalling is a big conditional factor for Zorn staying.
That would be the one reservation in the matter indeed. However, a team guy or not you have to win, which wasn't happening. Character only takes you so far.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:22 PM   #4
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

going to get very interesting.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:28 PM   #5
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Where are Spence and Skinny Tee? Thoughts on Snyder's move?
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:31 PM   #6
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

We have a real GM! We can debate about whether or not Allen was the best choice (he seems like a solid choice to me), but simply having changed the structure of the FO makes us better.

I hope that we look back on today as one of the brightest in Redskins history.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:36 PM   #7
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Where are Spence and Skinny Tee? Thoughts on Snyder's move?
I think Spence gave up posting here. I don't think he was big on us being critical of him... being critical.

Skinny is probably playing Modern Warfare, lol. He's logged an insane amount of time in that game. I wonder if he works.
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Where are Spence and Skinny Tee? Thoughts on Snyder's move?
Skinny Tee is doing the medical report on Cerrato's ego and projecting how long he'll be out. :p
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:29 PM   #9
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

One possibility/prediction:

Zorn stays a year because they can't get Gruden out of his deal w/espn w/out paying big $. In addition, they would have to pay Zorn to fire him too.

So, Zorn gets a year but then they negotiate w/Gruden to coach in 2011 when it's easier to get him out of his espn deal.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:31 PM   #10
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Just because I want Zorn to stay doesn't mean that I am naive enough to believe that he is going to stay.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:32 PM   #11
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Here is a list of players that Bruce Allen drafted in the time he was with Tampa Bay:
2004 Michael Clayton, Will Allen, 2 PLAYERS FOR 8 PICKS., 2005 Carnell Williams, Alex Smith(with Philadelphia),and Barrett Ruud. 3 out of twelve. 2006 Maurice Stovall, Jeremy Trueblood, Davin Joseph, Bruce Gradkowski(Oakland Raiders), 4 Out of 10. 2007 Gaines Adams(Traded to Chicago), Quincy Black, Greg Peterson, Sabby Piscitelli, Adam Hayward, Tanard Jackson. 2008 Geno Hayes, Aqib Talib, Dre Moore, Jeremy Zuttah, and Josh Johnson.

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Old 12-17-2009, 03:41 PM   #12
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I don't care what anyone says about Allen's record as a GM it comes down to this. Vinny was a douche. Forget the OLine, bad draft pick and bad trades. He was a donkey-ass douchebag that no one but Dan Snyder liked. He was universally disliked because he was a weasel(thank you saden). That couldn't be good for our org. It just couldn't. Even if Allen is the equivalent of Vinny talent wise at least he'll be respected. That alone is an upgrade.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen takes the Redskins' helm
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:44 PM   #14
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

And for those that were asking about this:

Redskins Insider - Pollard Alliance says Redskins complied with Rooney Rule
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They fulfilled it 10 days ago. This was not a whim or fly by night move!
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