'Occupy' types

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I agree on all points.

As to the Civil Rights Movement, it was often met with violence from authorities but, under MLK and others, I believe that the movement itself called for non-violent actions and that it was the leaders who called for non-violence who acheived the most lasting results. Given the violence used to oppose them, it is a testament to the likes of MLK and Medgar Evers that they did not resort to violence but worked to change the system from within and, I believe, accomplished a sea change in how the law operates. Had MLK and others called for violent response to the violence they were subjected to, I think we would have a very different - much worse - US today. Although some called for violence, I believe these groups were eventually marginalized and rendered ineffective by the more successful non-violent actions (legal actions, marches, sit-ins, etc.).

As to Egypt, I agree; it is a revolution of an entirely different animal than the OWS protests - that, in fact, was my point. In fact, the quoted Kennedy speech was given in 1962 to members of the Latin America diplomatic corp to encourage these countries to permit freedom of speech akin to that in America and to tolerate dissent where none was being tolerated. [ John F. Kennedy: Address on the first Anniversary of the Alliance for Progress. ] Again, I agree that the goals fo the Egyptian protests and actions like theirs, almost certainly demand "the blood of patriots and tyrants". Changing the political spectrum and the focus of political discussion in the US, however, may demand persistence, hard work and patience, it does not require that those seeking such change also seek the blood of their opponents.

I agree but one correction civil rights movement were met with violence from other civilians mostly. Anti-protesters who were never brought to justice in most instances.

[NC_Skins]

[MTK]

[JoeRedskin]

^^ lol

[MTK]

The 'Pepper Spraying Cop' Is Officially a Meme - New York News - Runnin' Scared

[drew54]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Have you ever thought that the reason they have more money to spend is because they have more support and with that support come donations? I think the two go hand in hand. I'm not saying that I support it just making the point.

Stat of the Day: Who Gives to Campaigns? | United Republic

Here is some data on who supports these candidates.

[firstdown]

I don't get why they let these people OWS take over parks for 2 months and now they want to kick them out. Would it not be much easier to let the winter cold drive them away. I think it would be fun to watch and see ho long they could last.

[Alvin Walton]

[FRPLG]

Word of the day: Ass-douche

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Word of the day: Ass-douche

Yes, terrorists want our hot tubs and big boob bitches.

Adam Carolla = Childish = Major FAIL!

[That Guy]

they hate us because of israel/palestine from 1948, from overthrowing iran's democracy in the 50s, supporting israel and theit retaliations/wars/mossad actions, and some from afghanistan, iraq, kuwait, afghanistan (the proxy war) and some even from the crusades, from which stories are told as if they happened yesterday.

the big problem is that hate isn't natural, its taught, it's learned and they can REALLY hold a grudge.

I don't think hating us for our houses that they can't see or don't care about makes a lot of sense. it was stupid when bush used the "they hate us because our women wear hig heels" argument in 2002. I think they have much more concrete and serious issues.

I think he skips the whole, banking lost everyone else's money, got bailed out, and left everyone they stole from holding the bag (while losing their houses etc) I know a lot of those people shouldn't have bought into housing they couldn't afford, but the banks got trillions in 0.01% interest government loans and hundreds of billions for free.

is a bank getting trillions at 0.01% interest, investing it in government treasuries at 3% and then keeping billions in profit fair? Cause I'd like to get in on that. The banks DID NOT use the bailout or loan money to continue lending, which was the whole point, but if you've tried to get a loan right now, even with an 800 rating, it's a LOT LOT harder than it used to be.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by That Guy

they hate us because of israel/palestine from 1948, from overthrowing iran's democracy in the 50s, supporting israel and theit retaliations/wars/mossad actions, and some from afghanistan, iraq, kuwait, afghanistan (the proxy war) and some even from the crusades, from which stories are told as if they happened yesterday.

the big problem is that hate isn't natural, its taught, it's learned and they can REALLY hold a grudge.

I don't think hating us for our houses that they can't see or don't care about makes a lot of sense. it was stupid when bush used the "they hate us because our women wear hig heels" argument in 2002. I think they have much more concrete and serious issues.

I think he skips the whole, banking lost everyone else's money, got bailed out, and left everyone they stole from holding the bag (while losing their houses etc) I know a lot of those people shouldn't have bought into housing they couldn't afford, but the banks got trillions in 0.01% interest government loans and hundreds of billions for free.

is a bank getting trillions at 0.01% interest, investing it in government treasuries at 3% and then keeping billions in profit fair? Cause I'd like to get in on that. The banks DID NOT use the bailout or loan money to continue lending, which was the whole point, but if you've tried to get a loan right now, even with an 800 rating, it's a LOT LOT harder than it used to be.

I have just over a 800 rating and have had no trouble getting a lot loan and have two banks fighting to get my business.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have just over a 800 rating and have had no trouble getting a lot loan and have two banks fighting to get my business.

how many mortgages do you have right now?

[MTK]

They have more than one bank in Mayberry?

How many stop lights do you have now?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by That Guy

how many mortgages do you have right now?

I currently have two mortgages but I'm not sure if or how the office mortgage shows up on my credit report.