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Old 04-07-2014, 02:21 PM   #421
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I'm sorry. Did someone say Kirk Cousins was a locker room Cancer?
Da fuq? Really?
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:26 PM   #422
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Question 1: Did someone say Cousins is a Cancer?
Question 2: Was he born in July?
Question 3: What question are we questioning?
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:56 PM   #423
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Or you know the coach has a major ego. Sorry, time will tell but to me this seems more like the coach wanted him gone then Jackson suddenly going off the deep end.

Sometimes, a lot of times, college coaches don't succeed in the transition simply because they aren't used to dealing with players who are paid more then them, aren't subservient to them like college players are to college coaches.

Jackson has had 3 probowl and six successful seasons and now I am supposed to believe he can't produce or be able to get along in an NFL locker room. Call me skeptical about that.
Just for clarity:
1) No one is saying that Jackson "suddenly went off the deep end." The argument is that DJax has been a jerk for a long, long time.

2) I'm not arguing he can't produce. In fact, if he doesn't put up something like 80-1,200-10, I'll wonder what is going on. The argument against DJax is that he brings dysfunctionality which brings down everyone else.

But let me put it this way: are there any reports of Eagles players defending Jackson? I haven't seen any. But I've seen reports where Philly players have said, "Good riddance."
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:10 PM   #424
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<snip>But let me put it this way: are there any reports of Eagles players defending Jackson? I haven't seen any. But I've seen reports where Philly players have said, "Good riddance."
Chip Kelly just released one of his better players, and not for football reasons, so it's understandable that none of Jackson's former teammates criticized the decision. If Kelly is willing to cut DeSean, arguably their best player, he'd be just as quick to cut anyone not named Nick Foles or LeSean McCoy.
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:20 PM   #425
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Just for clarity:
1) No one is saying that Jackson "suddenly went off the deep end." The argument is that DJax has been a jerk for a long, long time.

2) I'm not arguing he can't produce. In fact, if he doesn't put up something like 80-1,200-10, I'll wonder what is going on. The argument against DJax is that he brings dysfunctionality which brings down everyone else.

But let me put it this way: are there any reports of Eagles players defending Jackson? I haven't seen any. But I've seen reports where Philly players have said, "Good riddance."
This was before his release, but still, he had some support

Jeremy Maclin has been Jackson's teammate for five years, but he said he has not spoken with his fellow wide receiver since the trade rumors first surfaced. Asked if he wants Jackson back, Maclin said: "I want to win games and obviously DeSean is a very talented player. So I want to win games."

Responding to a different question about Jackson, Maclin added:

"DeSean’s a great talent. That’s undeniable. As far as everything else, he’s come a long way. He’s matured a lot in the NFL. I think that’s part of the process, but it’s not for me to speak on another man’s behalf. So like I said, whatever happens, that’s what we have to roll with."

Riley Cooper spent last season opposite Jackson and seemed to think his teammate did everything Chip Kelly asked of him.

"He’s awesome. I’m in the same room as him every single day," Cooper said. "We’re both wideouts. So I’m with him every day, all day, meeting rooms, on the field. He’s a great player and he’s a good friend of mine. So I want him to stay.

"I felt like he did a great job for us. You all saw him on the field. He put up career numbers and he worked hard in practice, and that’s a big thing for Chip and everyone. You’ve gotta work hard in practice for it to carry over to the game. It’s all about preparation and things like that. And he did a good job of that last year. I’m extremely proud of him. In any case, whatever happens to DeSean, it’s supposed to happen. But I don’t know what it’s gonna be."

Trent Cole is entering his 10th season with the organization. He was perhaps the most supportive of any of the players in regards to Jackson.

"All I can tell you is I think he’s a good person," Cole said. "I think he’s a really good person and he’s a great player. He’s a guy I’ll never forget. When my career’s done, to the end, that’s a guy I’ll never forget. Just the incredible plays he’s made and what he’s done for the Eagles.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/27/desean-jacksons-teammates-want-back/
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:52 PM   #426
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Chip Kelly just released one of his better players, and not for football reasons, so it's understandable that none of Jackson's former teammates criticized the decision. If Kelly is willing to cut DeSean, arguably their best player, he'd be just as quick to cut anyone not named Nick Foles or LeSean McCoy.
This is what I am thinking. If it wasn't "Chip Kelly" and the Eagles, this move would be looked at much more as a dysfunctional FO move. Thing is Andy Reid and his FO is gone and now we are seeing Kelly put his stamp on things. Jackson's release shouldn't be looked at in a vacuum or like is the old stable Eagles FO.
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:56 PM   #427
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This was before his release, but still, he had some support

Jeremy Maclin has been Jackson's teammate for five years, but he said he has not spoken with his fellow wide receiver since the trade rumors first surfaced. Asked if he wants Jackson back, Maclin said: "I want to win games and obviously DeSean is a very talented player. So I want to win games."

Responding to a different question about Jackson, Maclin added:

"DeSean’s a great talent. That’s undeniable. As far as everything else, he’s come a long way. He’s matured a lot in the NFL. I think that’s part of the process, but it’s not for me to speak on another man’s behalf. So like I said, whatever happens, that’s what we have to roll with."

Riley Cooper spent last season opposite Jackson and seemed to think his teammate did everything Chip Kelly asked of him.

"He’s awesome. I’m in the same room as him every single day," Cooper said. "We’re both wideouts. So I’m with him every day, all day, meeting rooms, on the field. He’s a great player and he’s a good friend of mine. So I want him to stay.

"I felt like he did a great job for us. You all saw him on the field. He put up career numbers and he worked hard in practice, and that’s a big thing for Chip and everyone. You’ve gotta work hard in practice for it to carry over to the game. It’s all about preparation and things like that. And he did a good job of that last year. I’m extremely proud of him. In any case, whatever happens to DeSean, it’s supposed to happen. But I don’t know what it’s gonna be."

Trent Cole is entering his 10th season with the organization. He was perhaps the most supportive of any of the players in regards to Jackson.

"All I can tell you is I think he’s a good person," Cole said. "I think he’s a really good person and he’s a great player. He’s a guy I’ll never forget. When my career’s done, to the end, that’s a guy I’ll never forget. Just the incredible plays he’s made and what he’s done for the Eagles.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/27/desean-jacksons-teammates-want-back/
Cool. Thanks Matty. That's helpful.
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:19 PM   #428
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This can't be a worse cancer than Cousins insisting he get his chance that was promised to him by Shannahan.
Bold mine. So... is the Micheal Vick / Geno Smith situation just as bad a "cancer" to the Jets? If not, please explain. Links: Geno Smith: Awesome, Michael Vick’s my guy
Cousins: A trade would be great, but backing up RG3 is great too
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:07 PM   #429
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I didn't see this posted anywhere. I'd be curious to see what the NFLPA finds:

NFLPA to investigate Eagles’ release of DeSean Jackson
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:30 PM   #430
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As was brought up before , the last couple of receivers this happen to from Philly were Chris Carter and T.O. work out well for the other teams.
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ever since kirk got the bad haircut, he's been a different person.

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Old 04-07-2014, 11:24 PM   #432
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I don't know if anyone saw this, but Trent Williams said he sent Jackson a text asking if the Skins were in the mix.

Williams defends Jackson: 'People just want to pick you apart' | Comcast SportsNet Washington

I imagine other players from other teams did too, but it sure seems the Skins as a whole put a press on to bring him in. I would think players know what other players are like, especially if they are really bad eggs, and the fact that our offense basically lobbied him to come here says something.
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So I guess some people are getting all bent over DJ posting vacation pics on Twitter while the team is working out. Is this really a big deal? He had a pre-planned vacation and was properly excused from "voluntary" workouts, so I guess according to some people the guy needs to go into hiding.
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So I guess some people are getting all bent over DJ posting vacation pics on Twitter while the team is working out. Is this really a big deal? He had a pre-planned vacation and was properly excused from "voluntary" workouts, so I guess according to some people the guy needs to go into hiding.
That is exactly what to expect. As unreasonable and stupid as it is.
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So I guess some people are getting all bent over DJ posting vacation pics on Twitter while the team is working out. Is this really a big deal? He had a pre-planned vacation and was properly excused from "voluntary" workouts, so I guess according to some people the guy needs to go into hiding.
Another prime example of our culture needing to chill the f out. Jackson taking a vacation now will have ZERO impact on how he plays in the fall, and ZERO impact on our locker room. That's all that should matter.
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