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cpayne5 · 01-12-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

the last couple years there have been sure fire WRs (fitzgerald and edwards), but outside of those two, I don't remember any sure locks (and they both went in the top 3).

B lloyd of the 49ers will be free too i think, and he can make some circus catches, but i've also seen him alligator arm some... either way he could be a pretty cheap #2 or #3.

Lloyd is RFA, I believe.

gibbsisgod · 01-12-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

the last couple years there have been sure fire WRs (fitzgerald and edwards), but outside of those two, I don't remember any sure locks (and they both went in the top 3).

B lloyd of the 49ers will be free too i think, and he can make some circus catches, but i've also seen him alligator arm some... either way he could be a pretty cheap #2 or #3.

I always thought of lloyd as the next 50/50. but then again there is only one 50/50

RedskinPete · 01-12-2006, 04:31 PM

I like to see if we could fill in that WR spot with free agent! Bryant out of the Browns could fit! We need OL and DL help along with another CB!

#56fanatic · 01-13-2006, 08:15 AM

I see where we need to draft a TE. Cooley is the ideal player for the h-back, which plays as TE. The true TE position in gibbs offense is used as an extra blocker and doesn't catch alot of balls. with sellers, royal, and the other guy cant remember his name(87) I think we are OK. We need to address the #2 WR spot, either FA or draft, preferably draft. The DE position is something I would address throught the draft, or w/ the trade involving Ramsey or using the draft pick we get for ramsey. You can draft a corner late 5th or 6th round, I would try and pick up a SS with some speed and size. I said earlier the guy from Notre Dame (#9). Clark is pretty good at run support, but is not all that good in coverage. If we could get a SS that can cover, Taylor could do alot more damage rushing the passer and run support.

mason4415 · 01-13-2006, 08:51 AM

What's with the Notre Dame obsession? I'd like to see us take a DE at number 2, although I do agree that Maurice Stovall could be a very nice piece. Hopefully he falls to theh 3rd or 5th rounds.

WR is the weakest position in this year's draft. I've seen mention of Calvin Johnson. And yes, that dude is unbelievable. But he's going to be a top 5/top 10 pick in NEXT year's draft. He was only a sophomore and did not redshirt or attend prep school.

My vote for our first pick is a Defensive End. Actually, I like the Daryl Tapp pick in the mock draft at www.draftnotebook.com

drew54 · 01-12-2006, 04:31 PM

Our Draft picks are as follows.
2,3,5,6,6,7

Traded our 1 & 4 for Jason Campbell
Extra 6 for Rod Gardner

Good Link for Draft Info

gibbsisgod · 01-12-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by drew54

Our Draft picks are as follows.
2,3,5,6,6,7

Traded our 1 & 4 for Jason Campbell
Extra 6 for Rod Gardner

Good Link for Draft Info

I think we will get some of those compensation picks for the free agents we have lost.Maybe we will pick up a third or a fourth

pscott32 · 01-12-2006, 05:39 PM

While we're talking about wide receivers, what about about Moulds from Buffalo. I heard there's chance he'll be available. He's older but so was muhamad and smith.

skinsfanthru&thru · 01-12-2006, 06:42 PM

Wr or a consistent all around de are the 2 areas we need to address first and foremost. I think both could be addressed through free agency but de's r such huge hits or misses in the draft, I could see the skins only drafting a wr, special teamers who might be able to fill in on defense, and o-linemen.I'd still like to see the team draft a nice pass catching te who can block and I think the perfect choice if he fell to us would be Jeff King of VT. Anyone know if that mammoth of a te, from georgia I believe it is, is going into the draft?

NFLeurope · 01-12-2006, 07:29 PM

I just read the other day that Anthony Fasano TE out of Notre Dame (junior i think) just declared for the draft. Does anyone know anything about him???

The reason i like the idea of getting a TE more than another wide receiver...is simply that i am not convinced that our current wide receivers are all that bad. They are not getting much production outside of moss...but i dont know...i really have a feeling that that is mostly because of the fact that Brunell is not looking to them.

That is not a knock on Brunell...cause he has done a bunch of other things really well...and has developed a tremendous rapport with cooley and moss. But i just dont think its worth going out and spending more on another wide out...cause i believe when our QB changes...either to PR or campbell we will see our current guys start producing a lot more. In addition, considering Brunell has a good chance of being the starter again next year...and seeing as how he likes to dump it off short if Moss isnt open, i think having a 2nd talented Tight end could do wonders for opening up our offense...whereas if Brunell is still the QB i dont see another number 2 or 3 receiver opening anything up more than TJ or Patten have been able to do.

skinsfanthru&thru · 01-12-2006, 08:30 PM

even though it ain't gonna happen and it isn't a real need, wouldn't it be awesome to see a player like AJ Hawk of OSU in a skins uni?

Defensewins · 01-12-2006, 09:13 PM

I am a firm believer in drafting the best athlete available when it is our turn to draft. The only position we do not need is QB. But every other position we could use a body even if it is for a backup. Players get hurt all the time and good backups are important.
We need to draft and develop a CB. Carlos Roger is great, but Springs and Harris are getting old. Our defense is great because it can cover WR one on one.
Our need for a pass rush DE or WR are not desperate, would would be fine with what we have and by adding an inexpensive WR and pass rusking DE through free agency.
Koren Robinson intrigues me. For the right price, he might be a guy you take a chance on and sign to a modest contract. As he gets older he might get over his stupid ways. The guys is very talented.

jrocx69 · 01-12-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am a firm believer in drafting the best athlete available when it is our turn to draft. The only position we do not need is QB. But every other position we could use a body even if it is for a backup. Players get hurt all the time and good backups are important.
We need to draft and develop a CB. Carlos Roger is great, but Springs and Harris are getting old. Our defense is great because it can cover WR one on one.
Our need for a pass rush DE or WR are not desperate, would would be fine with what we have and by adding an inexpensive WR and pass rusking DE through free agency.
Koren Robinson intrigues me. For the right price, he might be a guy you take a chance on and sign to a modest contract. As he gets older he might get over his stupid ways. The guys is very talented.

he's crosseyed

I like Moulds and Jurevicius, we need more possession type receiver than speed. someone who can get us 10 yards on a consistant basis with cooley. the more underneath the more moss is one on one

That Guy · 01-12-2006, 09:42 PM

Moulds is a no go, very expensive and OLD... moose was a better option and gibbs said no way to him (though he loved his play), so i don't think its even a posibility.

FRPLG · 01-13-2006, 09:15 AM

I think it is pretty clear that Gibbs isn't a fan of tall possession receivers. I'd be suprised to see him go that direction. He also has never actually used a TE as a consistent pass catcher and hasn't shown the desire to do so yet. He does have balls thrown to Royal but only because we have no other options after Patten got hurt. I think ideally he wants passes thrown at WRs. Cooley has clearly warmed Gibbs to the idea of of getting the ball to other places though and he has shown the ability to adapt. I think we'll see some depth building at the WR spot so that we can weather injuries there better. He'll clearly be looking for depth on the o-line and certainly will prioritize a quality pass rushing de. I don't see this being a big off-season though. It wasn't a big off-season last year and we finished 6-10. I think he is happy with most of the talent.

01-13-2006, 08:15 AM	#4
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 52 Posts: 1,801	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! I see where we need to draft a TE. Cooley is the ideal player for the h-back, which plays as TE. The true TE position in gibbs offense is used as an extra blocker and doesn't catch alot of balls. with sellers, royal, and the other guy cant remember his name(87) I think we are OK. We need to address the #2 WR spot, either FA or draft, preferably draft. The DE position is something I would address throught the draft, or w/ the trade involving Ramsey or using the draft pick we get for ramsey. You can draft a corner late 5th or 6th round, I would try and pick up a SS with some speed and size. I said earlier the guy from Notre Dame (#9). Clark is pretty good at run support, but is not all that good in coverage. If we could get a SS that can cover, Taylor could do alot more damage rushing the passer and run support.

01-12-2006, 04:31 PM	#6
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 43 Posts: 1,324	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! Our Draft picks are as follows. 2,3,5,6,6,7 Traded our 1 & 4 for Jason Campbell Extra 6 for Rod Gardner Good Link for Draft Info __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

01-12-2006, 05:39 PM	#8
pscott32 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 8	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! While we're talking about wide receivers, what about about Moulds from Buffalo. I heard there's chance he'll be available. He's older but so was muhamad and smith.

01-12-2006, 07:29 PM	#10
NFLeurope Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 85	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! I just read the other day that Anthony Fasano TE out of Notre Dame (junior i think) just declared for the draft. Does anyone know anything about him??? The reason i like the idea of getting a TE more than another wide receiver...is simply that i am not convinced that our current wide receivers are all that bad. They are not getting much production outside of moss...but i dont know...i really have a feeling that that is mostly because of the fact that Brunell is not looking to them. That is not a knock on Brunell...cause he has done a bunch of other things really well...and has developed a tremendous rapport with cooley and moss. But i just dont think its worth going out and spending more on another wide out...cause i believe when our QB changes...either to PR or campbell we will see our current guys start producing a lot more. In addition, considering Brunell has a good chance of being the starter again next year...and seeing as how he likes to dump it off short if Moss isnt open, i think having a 2nd talented Tight end could do wonders for opening up our offense...whereas if Brunell is still the QB i dont see another number 2 or 3 receiver opening anything up more than TJ or Patten have been able to do.

01-12-2006, 08:30 PM	#11
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 46 Posts: 3,815	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! even though it ain't gonna happen and it isn't a real need, wouldn't it be awesome to see a player like AJ Hawk of OSU in a skins uni?

01-12-2006, 04:31 PM	#3
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! I like to see if we could fill in that WR spot with free agent! Bryant out of the Browns could fit! We need OL and DL help along with another CB!

01-13-2006, 08:51 AM	#5
mason4415 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 70	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! What's with the Notre Dame obsession? I'd like to see us take a DE at number 2, although I do agree that Maurice Stovall could be a very nice piece. Hopefully he falls to theh 3rd or 5th rounds. WR is the weakest position in this year's draft. I've seen mention of Calvin Johnson. And yes, that dude is unbelievable. But he's going to be a top 5/top 10 pick in NEXT year's draft. He was only a sophomore and did not redshirt or attend prep school. My vote for our first pick is a Defensive End. Actually, I like the Daryl Tapp pick in the mock draft at www.draftnotebook.com

01-12-2006, 06:42 PM	#9
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 46 Posts: 3,815	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! Wr or a consistent all around de are the 2 areas we need to address first and foremost. I think both could be addressed through free agency but de's r such huge hits or misses in the draft, I could see the skins only drafting a wr, special teamers who might be able to fill in on defense, and o-linemen.I'd still like to see the team draft a nice pass catching te who can block and I think the perfect choice if he fell to us would be Jeff King of VT. Anyone know if that mammoth of a te, from georgia I believe it is, is going into the draft?

01-12-2006, 09:13 PM	#12
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,767	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! I am a firm believer in drafting the best athlete available when it is our turn to draft. The only position we do not need is QB. But every other position we could use a body even if it is for a backup. Players get hurt all the time and good backups are important. We need to draft and develop a CB. Carlos Roger is great, but Springs and Harris are getting old. Our defense is great because it can cover WR one on one. Our need for a pass rush DE or WR are not desperate, would would be fine with what we have and by adding an inexpensive WR and pass rusking DE through free agency. Koren Robinson intrigues me. For the right price, he might be a guy you take a chance on and sign to a modest contract. As he gets older he might get over his stupid ways. The guys is very talented.

01-12-2006, 09:42 PM	#14
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! Moulds is a no go, very expensive and OLD... moose was a better option and gibbs said no way to him (though he loved his play), so i don't think its even a posibility.

01-13-2006, 09:15 AM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Draft Forum Now Open! I think it is pretty clear that Gibbs isn't a fan of tall possession receivers. I'd be suprised to see him go that direction. He also has never actually used a TE as a consistent pass catcher and hasn't shown the desire to do so yet. He does have balls thrown to Royal but only because we have no other options after Patten got hurt. I think ideally he wants passes thrown at WRs. Cooley has clearly warmed Gibbs to the idea of of getting the ball to other places though and he has shown the ability to adapt. I think we'll see some depth building at the WR spot so that we can weather injuries there better. He'll clearly be looking for depth on the o-line and certainly will prioritize a quality pass rushing de. I don't see this being a big off-season though. It wasn't a big off-season last year and we finished 6-10. I think he is happy with most of the talent.

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