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Old 01-14-2006, 07:59 PM   #1
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

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Perhaps I should have waited another day or two to post this thread. I didn't intend to come off as a hater and I should have realized that its timing was poor.
An honest opinion is rarely poorly timed, just poorly received.

Like I said, get drunk enjoys the rest of the playoffs (especially when Seattle get beat next week) and look forward to next season.
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:59 PM   #2
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

I think our offense improved this year. If they can improve by the same margin again next year we are a 12 win team if healthy. I think we should be proud that our team was in position to win this game most of the way and put forth a great effort. This was a true Gibbs team and I think we'll see something even better next year.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:00 PM   #3
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

To me we need another WR because moss cant do it all by him self, because it looked as if we had one WR today because taylor jacobs sucks.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:07 PM   #4
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To me we need another WR because moss cant do it all by him self, because it looked as if we had one WR today because taylor jacobs sucks.
I was saying that today. Another deep threat at WR can really make a world of difference. Even during our 6 game winning streak, I always felt we were short of one more playmaker on our offense but that we did a great job with what we had. I can't feel too bad. Yes, I feel bad about today's game...but we're just not ready to take that next step yet. We still accomplished alot more than what people, even fellow Redskins fans expected, so I feel good about being a Redskins fan.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:10 PM   #5
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

It looked like to me that we made an effort to get Jacobs involved today which I believe was the smart move, but he really didn't do much, perhaps the verdict is closing in on him as another Florida system reciever?

Either way I want Ramsey in there next season. Brunell, if not for a fluke play to Moss, would have mustard 2 field goals, in 2 playoff games, if you want to count the Hall mis, OK, 3 field goals, the guy isn't going to get any better.

You can't play smash mouth football if your 1 dimensional, you have to make teams respect the pass, that didn't happen for us in the playoff's, that has to be rectified!

And last but not least, WHAT ON EARTH IS RAYMOR DOING FILLING IN AT GUARD FOR BROWN??????????????????

We would be better off putting a beach ball at right guard. I can't believe after 2 years Molinaro can't step in there? What does that say about Molinaro if Raymor is playing at guard ahead of him?
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:14 PM   #6
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...the guy isn't going to get any better.
Good point. I think we saw the most we can expect from him this year. It's not enough to get to the next level. Sorta like Dilfer wasn't good enough to keep Balt on top and look at them since their SB. We need to look at that team and figure out what they did wrong. Hint: they didn't get a top quality QB to run the O. I love Brunell and think he does great at what a BACKUP should do. Protect the ball and give the defense the reigns to the game. We can't continue that pattern.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:06 PM   #7
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The basic problem is that without a legitimate second receiver (not to mention a third - or would that be greedy?) and with a big gap in the O-line, there just wasn't much of a "plan B" for us to fall back on. Gibbs did take quite a few risks in this game - going for it on fourth down several times, throwing deep on 4th and 2, etc. You could say that these were "too little, too late," but would they really have yielded better results if we had employed them sooner? Probably not, when you look at what they actually yielded when we used them.

What we need, now that the off season is here, is to work on getting at least two more legitimate receivers and a couple of solid back-up linemen. That will do more for this offense than anything else.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:10 PM   #8
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NO ITS NOT SAD. We started running the ball had low success. We also have to recognize our O line is NOT healthy they arent opening the same holes as they used to. We switched to a more throwing offense but agin we only have ONE reciever its tougth to mount a potent offense with ONE reciever. We took the team as far as we could now its time to address the gaps and Get ready to DOMINATE THE LEAUGE NEXT YEAR......HELLLL YEAHHH. GIBBS IS GREAT HE HAS BROUGHT BACK HOPE AND SUCCESS TO WASHINGTON AND THE REDSKINS.......i cant wait for AUGUST.........LETS GO SKINS
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:11 PM   #9
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I am a big team supporter and was in Brunell's corner all year and this not in any way a diversion from that feeling but I think we need to get more agressive and I think with Brunell as QB we simply cannot do that. He plays smart. Too smart. He knows how to not turn the ball over much and that's by not taking any chances. problem is that skill wise he turns a lot of easier plays into more chancy plays. I like Brunell as a backup. And I like him with quality parts around him. But having one good WR and a banged up O-line is a recipe for disaster for this team. We depth at WR and anothe decent o-line. Raymer needs to go for sure.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:14 PM   #10
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I think there will certainly be an open competition for starting QB in training camp. Once again, unless we trade him, it will be Ramsey's job - or Campbell's - to win.

The big question, to me, is who can we get at WR and OL?
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:18 PM   #11
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Offense never got hot until late in the 4th. Too many missed opportunities to score.

However, I'm very proud of the overall efforts of the coaches and players this year. We really got a great team here, one to build on for next season.... Hail SKIN!!!
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I think we were too conservative until we went down a lot and then we turned it up but it was way too late. It should be the other way around, be as aggressive as possible, then call the dogs off.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:20 PM   #13
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Remember guys...that is why we got Jason Campbell. However, I think it was a great move to have Brunell starting for us this year. Believe me, you'll find that Campbell AND Ramsey benefited a great deal by watching a decent veteran QB run the offense. Sure, Brunell isn't a TOP QUALITY QB, but he is a quality QB who is going to give you a chance in the game. It was a smart move.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:30 PM   #14
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Remember guys...that is why we got Jason Campbell. However, I think it was a great move to have Brunell starting for us this year. Believe me, you'll find that Campbell AND Ramsey benefited a great deal by watching a decent veteran QB run the offense. Sure, Brunell isn't a TOP QUALITY QB, but he is a quality QB who is going to give you a chance in the game. It was a smart move.
Agreed. The book on Campbell before the draft was that we was a terrific prospect who needed time to develop. I think working with Gibbs and his crew and learning from Brunell is a great situation for him. If he can add some of Brunell's knowledge to his physical skill, he has the potential to be our QB of the future.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:22 PM   #15
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

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I'm sorry, but this is a sad excuse for an offense. I tend to blame it on the conservative nature of the game-planning. What do you think?
I agree somewhat. This was the playoffs, the time when we unleash everything we got. Conservative isn't gonna win here. Unfortunately our season is over, but next year we need to be better. I for one think we should run more no huddle outside of two minutes left in the half. Look at some great teams that do it. The colts for instance, they went no huddle for an entire game. Look at where they are at now.
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