Redskins Sign Todd Collins

Beemnseven · 03-14-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I don't think he's saying that our starting qb will go down to injury, i think he's saying one of the starters on our team will go down to injury. It happens to every team. We'd have to be real lucky for it not to happen to us.

No, I'm pretty sure he was talking about QBs. Unless Ramsey can play long snapper or third-down situational running back or something.

Certainly, just about every team will get hit with an injury here and there. But nobody's keeping 4 quarterbacks on their roster, that's for sure.

81forHOF · 03-14-2006, 06:20 PM

we'll probably need ramsey's money for our rookie pool.

3rd ID SOLDIER · 03-14-2006, 06:22 PM

fact still remains the jets need a quarterback!

Beemnseven · 03-14-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd ID SOLDIER

fact still remains the jets need a quarterback!

Yeah, but it looks like the draft will allow them Vince Young or Matt Leinhart. And they haven't given up on Chad Pennington yet.

Either way, the Jets won't have to come crawling on their hands and knees begging for Patrick Ramsey now.

celts32 · 03-14-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Then if I'm the Skins I say fine and keep Ramsey until training camp when inevitably a starter will go down with injury.

The Collins announcement isn't going to hurt anything, teams already knew the Redskins' plans.

That I agree with...they need to remain patient.

JWsleep · 03-14-2006, 08:43 PM

BTW, I don't think the skins made this anouncement, for what it's worth. Probably some snitch or other. Whatever--it's clear that Ramsey is gone one way or another, so if the market drops, no one is going to trade. Cest la vie in the NFL, especially with both Culpepper and Brees on the market, and some hot QBs in the draft. Not a great situation for Pat and the skins, but thems the breaks.

Just wondering--is Collins any good?

That Guy · 03-14-2006, 09:16 PM

JA for ramsey is dead dead dead. it was contingency in case carter signed with the broncos, which he obviously did not do.

celts32 · 03-15-2006, 12:15 AM

John Clayton said on Sportscenter that the Jets are now only offering a 7th for Ramsey. The skins lost all hand in this Ramsey trade by announcing a Collins signing before the Ramsey deal. I just don't get what the hurry was to lock up Collins...

bjschmonsees · 03-15-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

John Clayton said on Sportscenter that the Jets are now only offering a 7th for Ramsey. The skins lost all hand in this Ramsey trade by announcing a Collins signing before the Ramsey deal. I just don't get what the hurry was to lock up Collins...

It was about teaching Brunell and Campbell about Saunders system...

SmootSmack · 03-15-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

John Clayton said on Sportscenter that the Jets are now only offering a 7th for Ramsey. The skins lost all hand in this Ramsey trade by announcing a Collins signing before the Ramsey deal. I just don't get what the hurry was to lock up Collins...

Hasn't been the case from the start though? The Jets were offering a 7th, we wanted a 4th. Hence no trade

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Just wondering--is Collins any good?

no, he's terrible and only thrown 27 passes in 5 years. he's here as a player coach for al saunder's system and nothing more.

mooby · 03-15-2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

no, he's terrible and only thrown 27 passes in 5 years. he's here as a player coach for al saunder's system and nothing more.

really? adam schefter said he's gonna be our #2 because campbell isn't ready to be a #2 yet.

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

really? adam schefter said he's gonna be our #2 because campbell isn't ready to be a #2 yet.

then he's lying

seriously, he's a guy you never want on the field.

celts32 · 03-15-2006, 12:24 PM

From todays post...
"Some teams now believe that with the addition of Collins, the Redskins are more likely to have to release Ramsey, according to a source, because teams will be reluctant to offer much for him, knowing Washington has a glut of quarterbacks. The Redskins would save $1.7 million in salary cap space by cutting or trading Ramsey, and have about $11 million in 2006 salary cap space already devoted to the position."

This basically confirms what I have been saying in this thread about the signing of collins destroying the redskins leverage in a Ramsey trade. I don't see why they couldn't have made a verbal deal with Collins and not announced anything until they had traded Ramsey. This is not that big a deal...but it did cost them a late round draft pick.

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

From todays post...
"Some teams now believe that with the addition of Collins, the Redskins are more likely to have to release Ramsey, according to a source, because teams will be reluctant to offer much for him, knowing Washington has a glut of quarterbacks. The Redskins would save $1.7 million in salary cap space by cutting or trading Ramsey, and have about $11 million in 2006 salary cap space already devoted to the position."

This basically confirms what I have been saying in this thread about the signing of collins destroying the redskins leverage in a Ramsey trade. I don't see why they couldn't have made a verbal deal with Collins and not announced anything until they had traded Ramsey. This is not that big a deal...but it did cost them a late round draft pick.

it changes nothing. people knew we were going after collins a logn time ago. people knew ramsey was trade fodder months ago. nothing's changed.

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celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: Redskins Sign Todd Collins From todays post... "Some teams now believe that with the addition of Collins, the Redskins are more likely to have to release Ramsey, according to a source, because teams will be reluctant to offer much for him, knowing Washington has a glut of quarterbacks. The Redskins would save $1.7 million in salary cap space by cutting or trading Ramsey, and have about $11 million in 2006 salary cap space already devoted to the position." This basically confirms what I have been saying in this thread about the signing of collins destroying the redskins leverage in a Ramsey trade. I don't see why they couldn't have made a verbal deal with Collins and not announced anything until they had traded Ramsey. This is not that big a deal...but it did cost them a late round draft pick. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

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