Packers meet with Lavar

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm pretty sure he's not daring them to do it, but I think you could be right that he might want them to just so he doesn't have to make the decision. And so what if he is? I love how everyone acts like it's an easy decision.

No, I understand it's not an easy decision. It is a life-altering call he has to make, no one denies that. But the way he's going about it, the pouty attitude, the "I'm going home if you guys don't do it MY way" crap is what irritates me. That, along with his Golden Boy image that somehow allows him to commit to the team only if everything's perfect -- not sticking with his guys through the tough times -- that the media let's their darling get away with without calling him on it.

He's just a man, a football player. Come on, he's not Jesus.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

He's just a man, a football player. Come on, he's not Jesus.

No only is he just a man, and just a football player, but he is just not as good as he use to be. I watched him play a game against the Bears last year, and I really questioned his decision making. I am a huge Farve fan, but he was trying to make too much happen on his own and because he is a living legend, his coaches won't stand up to him about it. The Packers would be a better team if he would retire at this point. I say, Go ahead and go with the young Aaron Rodgers and see what you have.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

No, I understand it's not an easy decision. It is a life-altering call he has to make, no one denies that. But the way he's going about it, the pouty attitude, the "I'm going home if you guys don't do it MY way" crap is what irritates me. That, along with his Golden Boy image that somehow allows him to commit to the team only if everything's perfect -- not sticking with his guys through the tough times -- that the media let's their darling get away with without calling him on it.

He's just a man, a football player. Come on, he's not Jesus.

No one said he was JESUS!! The thing that everyone is misunderstanding is that his time is limited if he does come back. If they're going to suck, there is no reason to come back. Steve Young said it all year last year. He'll only want to come back if he has a chance to win. If he's just gonna come back to lose what's the point? Why keep losing? He's shown that he's committed to that team, they haven't shown a committment to winning.

That D has sucked forever, they never do anything about it. They lowball all the free agents that come through there so they barely ever get any better. They try to build through the draft, I guess, but that hasn't panned out too well. see: Ahmad Carrol, he spends most of the time he's on the field in the toaster.

That team isn't that good. They haven't made a free agent move since Reggie White went there. I don't wanna hear about how Brett Favre is hurting the Packers cause that is false.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by scowan

No only is he just a man, and just a football player, but he is just not as good as he use to be. I watched him play a game against the Bears last year, and I really questioned his decision making. I am a huge Farve fan, but he was trying to make too much happen on his own and because he is a living legend, his coaches won't stand up to him about it. The Packers would be a better team if he would retire at this point. I say, Go ahead and go with the young Aaron Rodgers and see what you have.

I kinda agree with that point, but I don't begrudge a guy for trying to do too much. He did make a lot of bad decisions last year. No one is denying that. However, I don't think they're better off with Rogers. It might be best to see what he can do, but I think if Brett wants to play, you let him play. For the short term, you're better with Brett than you are with Rogers.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by jdlea

He said that if they feel like he's hurting the team they should cut him

Hey man 29 int's is what I call a big hurt. If LaVar was to sign there (which I doubt) GB would have a "prima" on both sides of the ball. What a way to go.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I kinda agree with that point, but I don't begrudge a guy for trying to do too much. He did make a lot of bad decisions last year. No one is denying that. However, I don't think they're better off with Rogers. It might be best to see what he can do, but I think if Brett wants to play, you let him play. For the short term, you're better with Brett than you are with Rogers.

in the short term they'd still be a loser though, so it seems kind of like its a moot point

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Hey man 29 int's is what I call a big hurt. If LaVar was to sign there (which I doubt) GB would have a "prima" on both sides of the ball. What a way to go.

How about the season before that when he threw 30 td's cause he had more than one healthy receiver and a running back people had to respect? I bet he was hurting the team then, too...

[HermosaBeach Skin Fan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

How dare you suggest such a notion about Brett "The Second Coming of Christ" Fav-rey.

I'm in town to play the Dolphins you dumbass!

I love you Mary, you know I'll always be true to you.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by jdlea

How about the season before that when he threw 30 td's cause he had more than one healthy receiver and a running back people had to respect? I bet he was hurting the team then, too...

Did Favre hurt the team by throwing 1 touchdown and 4 interceptions in the Wild Card game that they lost to the Vikings on January 9, 2005 ?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Did Favre hurt the team by throwing 1 touchdown and 4 interceptions in the Wild Card game that they lost to the Vikings on January 9, 2005 ?

I never said the playoff loss wasn't his fault. I don't recall my post including anything about how he played well in the playoffs. And since he hurt the team so bad, who do you recommend they should have started?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by HermosaBeach Skin Fan

I'm in town to play the Dolphins you dumbass!

I love you Mary, you know I'll always be true to you.

Quite possibly his worst performance ever...we all know Joey T would have nailed that role!

[Gwilljest]

AS long as he stays out of the NFC East

[Giantone]

Just tring to keep all on 1 thread ,here is an update guys .


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- LB Chase Blackburn is finally saying he’s at 100%. Word is that he might be tried at SLB this coming season, as well as serving as back-up MLB. (From CBS)
- Despite ongoing negotiations with the Packers and Dolphins, CBS still has an “underlying suspicion” that free agent LB Lavar Arrington will sign with the New York Giants. Here is the blurb from Sportsline:

All is quiet on the LaVar Arrington front, as the Giants appear to have removed themselves from the bidding for the former Redskins linebacker. His financial demands were too high and already turned off Cincinnati, Cleveland and Miami. The Giants made an offer, which he refused and which they recently took off the table. Arrington was negotiating with Green Bay most recently, but the underlying suspicion is that he’ll sign with the Giants when his demands and the Giants’ offer get a lot closer.

- Here is another interesting blurb on Lavar Arrington and the LB situation for the Giants. This time from ESPN:

‘Back(ers) to the future: The Green Bay Packers and New York Giants both entertained unrestricted free agent LaVar Arrington, but neither has signed the former Washington Redskins star and three-time Pro Bowl performer. The other thing the two clubs have in common is a perilously thin linebacker depth chart. Both teams are going to land a linebacker, maybe even more than one, on draft weekend."

[Drift Reality]

I think a lot of the drama surrounding Arrington can be pinned on his agents, the Poston brothers.

I can't help but think that those two mishandled his contract with the Redskins, which ultimately lead to the resentment between Arrington and the Redskins management and his eventual release. Furthermore, they can't seem to find him a contract and he is past the point where the free agents tend to get the big contracts. I wonder if he might sign a 1-year offer and gamble that his numbers make him a valuable commodity in the offseason?

If I were Arrington, I would fire my agent, get a new agent, and beg for a 1-year contract from the 'Skins who still have a hole at weakside LB.

[free21]

LaVar should sign a one year deal and prove that he is still a game changer on defense. Then go after some big free agent dollars next year with a different agent. All of the Postons big name free agents (LaVar, Woodson and Ty Law) are all unsigned. The Poston's demands are too high and by now most teams have spent their money. Some team might end up with a bargain for one year.