B Lloyd - I'm starting to like this guy

[SmootSmack]

As a receiver I like Bryant. But it is a bit curious that he had his best season last year (nearly 70 catches, over 1000 yards) and yet the Browns made no offer at all to re-sign him. They had the money. And their top 2 receivers-Edwards and KWII-were coming off major knee injuries.

Still, they let him walk.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Rexi

I didn't refer to Bryant's character in my posts i refered to Lloyd's. With Bryant there has only been one incident, in Dallas he threw a sweaty jersey at Parcells. In Cleveland there were no issues. So far it has been smoothe in San Fran.

You said he was superior in every way, while denigrating Lloyd, especially his character, so if you're going to compare apples to apples, it's a fair thing to bring up.

And "incidents" are not what defines a guy's character. Those are just the things the media catches on TV. Hence the phrase, "locker room cancer", as locker room attitudes aren't necessarily front page news. Google the guy if you don't believe me, his past going back to his college days is littered with reports of sideline temper tantrums and the like.

I don't really care that much one way or another about Bryant, you see, it sounds like he is genuinely changing his ways and has developed a rapport with Smith. The point is that you can't always judge a guy by what he did at the last place he played. If that were the case, the "superior" Antonio Bryant might well have never played again after his stint in Dallas.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

As a receiver I like Bryant. But it is a bit curious that he had his best season last year (nearly 70 catches, over 1000 yards) and yet the Browns made no offer at all to re-sign him. They had the money. And their top 2 receivers-Edwards and KWII-were coming off major knee injuries.

Still, they let him walk.

I just don't think Bryant wanted to stay in Cleveland, so he signed elsewhere. That doesn't mean he was a bad teammate or was a cancer, it just means he wanted a change of scenery.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by dgack

You said he was superior in every way, while denigrating Lloyd, especially his character, so if you're going to compare apples to apples, it's a fair thing to bring up.

And "incidents" are not what defines a guy's character. Those are just the things the media catches on TV. Hence the phrase, "locker room cancer", as locker room attitudes aren't necessarily front page news. Google the guy if you don't believe me, his past going back to his college days is littered with reports of sideline temper tantrums and the like.

I don't really care that much one way or another about Bryant, you see, it sounds like he is genuinely changing his ways and has developed a rapport with Smith. The point is that you can't always judge a guy by what he did at the last place he played. If that were the case, the "superior" Antonio Bryant might well have never played again after his stint in Dallas.

I am not aware of any reports that he was a bad teammate in cleveland and i think he has matured as an individual. lloyd however, has thrown his teammates under the bus. He constantly rapped in the locker room which annoyed a lot of players. He has since insulted the 49ers organization and find him to be an immature young man.

[dgack]

Whatever, keep your homer blinders on, it's a free country. Enjoy your season.

[SmootSmack]

Well let's see what happens in '06. I think just like you say Bryant wanted a change of scenery, perhaps Lloyd wanted the same

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Well let's see what happens in '06. I think just like you say Bryant wanted a change of scenery, perhaps Lloyd wanted the same

Yeah but Bryant didn't trash the Browns when he got here. Also, Bryant is a good receiver, Lloyd is not.

[SmootSmack]

Ok, you don't like Lloyd. We get it

[dgack]

There comes a point in some arguments, where one party, having exhausted every attempt at reason, and even employing compromise as a way to reach the other party, realises the second party is simply incapable of logical discourse, and will simply keep repeating their premise, no matter how flawed.

We have now reached that portion of the argument. Thanks for playing, you can go home now, we're done with you.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by dgack

Whatever, keep your homer blinders on, it's a free country. Enjoy your season.

I'm not being a homer. Have I said, THE REDSKINS SUK THE 49ERS R 4 REALZ! No. You guys have a great thing going over there, Randle El and Moss are both good receivers. The Redskins are a lot better than the 49ers are right now. I am just saying that trading for Lloyd was a really bad move. He isn't a physical threat, he won't break tackles or fight for yards. He will just make a circus catch and jump on the ground. Also he runs poor routes and makes too many mental mistakes.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by dgack

There comes a point in some arguments, where one party, having exhausted every attempt at reason, and even employing compromise as a way to reach the other party, realises the second party is simply incapable of logical discourse, and will simply keep repeating their premise, no matter how flawed.

We have now reached that portion of the argument. Thanks for playing, you can go home now, we're done with you.

you have yet to point out any of his strengths. instead you have insulted Bryant thinking it makes lloyd look better.

[dgack]

Thanks for playing, please see posts #38 & #39.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post203142

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by Rexi

I'm not being a homer. Have I said, THE REDSKINS SUK THE 49ERS R 4 REALZ! No. You guys have a great thing going over there, Randle El and Moss are both good receivers. The Redskins are a lot better than the 49ers are right now. I am just saying that trading for Lloyd was a really bad move. He isn't a physical threat, he won't break tackles or fight for yards. He will just make a circus catch and jump on the ground. Also he runs poor routes and makes too many mental mistakes.

I live out here in 9er country and I have to say you are way off base on Lloyd. Only time will tell who is right. As for the trade I think you are way off as well. If you look at the WR's in the draft are NO better and I think will Not be any better down the line. That being said I think Lloyd has a much higher up side this season and seasons to come over any of the Wr's coming out of the 06 draft!

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by dgack

Thanks for playing, please see posts #38 & #39.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post203142

Alright ignore me. The fact is that i have actually made points, you have not.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

I live out here in 9er country and I have to say you are way off base on Lloyd. Only time will tell who is right. As for the trade I think you are way off as well. If you look at the WR's in the draft are NO better and I think will Not be any better down the line. That being said I think Lloyd has a much higher up side this season and seasons to come over any of the Wr's coming out of the 06 draft!

Lol most wide receivers in the 1st 5 rounds are better than Lloyd. I highly doubt that he has a better career than every WR in this years draft. That would make this the worst class of all time.