Merged: TE/H-back depth chart

EEich · 06-01-2004, 09:07 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004May31.html

Big C · 06-01-2004, 03:39 PM

espn has it on their site now, dont know why it took so long, i saw it a few days back on the bottom line...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1813690

SmootSmack · 06-01-2004, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

espn has it on their site now, dont know why it took so long, i saw it a few days back on the bottom line...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1813690

Don't me modest, Big C! I think you're just psychic and had a vision. Let me know if you see any Lotto numbers!

Hogskin · 06-03-2004, 12:33 AM

In another earlier thread, there was some discussion of how many TE's the Redskins would carry. Some here felt they would keep all 7 that they have. For whatever it's worth, here is the last paragraph in a Washington Post article to be published Thursday morning:

"The Redskins plan to activate four tight ends on game days, while most teams carry only two or three on the active roster. Washington appears likely to release one or two tight ends before the regular season.

-- Nunyo Demasio "

The article had earlier mentioned that the Redskins currently have 7 TE's on their roster.

Of course Nunyo may not know any more than some of our guys here, so this does not really mean a lot. But it will be interesting to see how things shake out.

Redskins8588 · 06-03-2004, 12:58 AM

If they give Sellers and Cooley the Full back title, but use them as h-backs then there you just cut your TE'S from 7 down to 5....

Hogskin · 06-03-2004, 01:08 AM

I can assure you, Cooley will not be given a FB designation. But no matter what you call these 7 guys referenced in the article, there is only so much roster space for them - and it is not likely to be 7 spots. The article was indicating that only 4 of the 7 (which included Cooley and Sellers) would be on the active roster in any one week. You can call them a LB or QB if you want to, it will not make an additional roster spot.

Redskins8588 · 06-03-2004, 01:31 AM

So who do you think is going to be released?

Hogskin · 06-03-2004, 01:57 AM

No real insight on that, except that I feel sure it won't be Rasby, Cooley or Sellers. Most likely Ware and/or Kozlowski.

They will probably do one of 2 things if the article is correct: Waive 1, practice squad 1, keep 1 inactive, or waive 2 and keep 1 inactive. I believe the active roster limit is still 45. So that means there are 8 inactive slots (if you count the 3rd string QB). They could keep one there, but keeping 2 weekly inactive TE's seems real unlikely.

sportscurmudgeon · 06-03-2004, 11:09 AM

With the signing of Fred Baxter, the Redskins now have seven tight ends on the roster. Thats S-E-V-E-N.

Yes, tight end/H-back is an important part of the Joe Gibbs offense and they will need some depth at that position, but it is not likely that there will be seven TE's on the roster on opening day. My guess would be three but it could be four if one of the guys is actually a special team player who never really gets into a game as a TE.

At various times, all of these guys have been gushed over by posters here. So now it's time to forget all the stuff about how each and every one of them might make it to the Hall of Fame; now it's time to predict which ones will make the team and which will be parking cars at the Washington Hilton come September.

Here are the names:

Fred Baxter
Robert Royal
Walter Rasby
Kevin Ware
Mike Sellers
Brian Kozlowski
Chris Cooley

I think Rasby, Baxter and Cooley make the team. Remember, Cooley was one of their few draft picks this year so it might be embarrassing to cut him...

SkinsRock · 06-03-2004, 11:35 AM

Keep in mind that these guys are filling two different positions, blocking TE and H-back, and some of the H-backs will be using the roster spots normally reserved for fullbacks. So I could see them keeping as many as 6 of them, and no fewer than 4.
I see Rasby and Baxter as the blocking TE's, and Sellers and Cooley as the primary H-backs. The rest will battle for the remaining slot(s).

Hogskin · 06-03-2004, 12:14 PM

I agree, Rock. For a good part of Gibbs' last go-round, Warren was the blocking TE, and Didier the H-back. I think Baxter is the most tenuous of the 4 you mentioned as keepers. He should at least make the practice squad or the weekly "inactives" if he is not one of the 4 active TE's. I also would bet Cooley has a great shot at moving into the starting H-back spot before the end of the season. Hopefully, he and Sellers both have the smarts to play that complex position. Something else to think about, Gibbs uses a lot of 3 WR sets. In those formations, you can not have 2 TE's on the field.

MTK · 06-03-2004, 01:06 PM

Cooley and Kozlowski will compete for the starting h-back spot, while it looks like Rasby the the recently added Baxter will duke it out for the starting blocking TE.

My bubble guys would be Royal, Ware and Sellers. Sellers seems to have the best chance at sticking, Ware is the biggest long shot and Royal falls somewhere in between.

Hogskin · 06-03-2004, 01:56 PM

Matty, interesting!! I thought Sellers would start out as the H-back with Cooley eventually getting the job. I'm sure you have more insight on this than I do...

MTK · 06-03-2004, 02:07 PM

Not really, John, just my 2 cents

SkinsRock · 06-03-2004, 02:23 PM

According to Joe C's minicamp reports, Sellers was the top guy at H-back, which was a factor in my thought that he may be the starter at the beginning of the season. But of course anything can happen by the end of training camp...

06-03-2004, 12:33 AM	#34
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	7 TE's? In another earlier thread, there was some discussion of how many TE's the Redskins would carry. Some here felt they would keep all 7 that they have. For whatever it's worth, here is the last paragraph in a Washington Post article to be published Thursday morning: "The Redskins plan to activate four tight ends on game days, while most teams carry only two or three on the active roster. Washington appears likely to release one or two tight ends before the regular season. -- Nunyo Demasio " The article had earlier mentioned that the Redskins currently have 7 TE's on their roster. Of course Nunyo may not know any more than some of our guys here, so this does not really mean a lot. But it will be interesting to see how things shake out. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

06-03-2004, 01:08 AM	#36
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	I can assure you, Cooley will not be given a FB designation. But no matter what you call these 7 guys referenced in the article, there is only so much roster space for them - and it is not likely to be 7 spots. The article was indicating that only 4 of the 7 (which included Cooley and Sellers) would be on the active roster in any one week. You can call them a LB or QB if you want to, it will not make an additional roster spot. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

06-03-2004, 01:57 AM	#38
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	No real insight on that, except that I feel sure it won't be Rasby, Cooley or Sellers. Most likely Ware and/or Kozlowski. They will probably do one of 2 things if the article is correct: Waive 1, practice squad 1, keep 1 inactive, or waive 2 and keep 1 inactive. I believe the active roster limit is still 45. So that means there are 8 inactive slots (if you count the 3rd string QB). They could keep one there, but keeping 2 weekly inactive TE's seems real unlikely. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

06-03-2004, 11:09 AM	#39
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Who will get cut? With the signing of Fred Baxter, the Redskins now have seven tight ends on the roster. Thats S-E-V-E-N. Yes, tight end/H-back is an important part of the Joe Gibbs offense and they will need some depth at that position, but it is not likely that there will be seven TE's on the roster on opening day. My guess would be three but it could be four if one of the guys is actually a special team player who never really gets into a game as a TE. At various times, all of these guys have been gushed over by posters here. So now it's time to forget all the stuff about how each and every one of them might make it to the Hall of Fame; now it's time to predict which ones will make the team and which will be parking cars at the Washington Hilton come September. Here are the names: Fred Baxter Robert Royal Walter Rasby Kevin Ware Mike Sellers Brian Kozlowski Chris Cooley I think Rasby, Baxter and Cooley make the team. Remember, Cooley was one of their few draft picks this year so it might be embarrassing to cut him...

06-03-2004, 12:14 PM	#41
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	I agree, Rock. For a good part of Gibbs' last go-round, Warren was the blocking TE, and Didier the H-back. I think Baxter is the most tenuous of the 4 you mentioned as keepers. He should at least make the practice squad or the weekly "inactives" if he is not one of the 4 active TE's. I also would bet Cooley has a great shot at moving into the starting H-back spot before the end of the season. Hopefully, he and Sellers both have the smarts to play that complex position. Something else to think about, Gibbs uses a lot of 3 WR sets. In those formations, you can not have 2 TE's on the field. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

06-01-2004, 09:07 AM	#31
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004May31.html

06-01-2004, 03:39 PM	#32
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	espn has it on their site now, dont know why it took so long, i saw it a few days back on the bottom line... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1813690

06-03-2004, 12:58 AM	#35
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	If they give Sellers and Cooley the Full back title, but use them as h-backs then there you just cut your TE'S from 7 down to 5....

06-03-2004, 01:31 AM	#37
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	So who do you think is going to be released?

06-03-2004, 11:35 AM	#40
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Keep in mind that these guys are filling two different positions, blocking TE and H-back, and some of the H-backs will be using the roster spots normally reserved for fullbacks. So I could see them keeping as many as 6 of them, and no fewer than 4. I see Rasby and Baxter as the blocking TE's, and Sellers and Cooley as the primary H-backs. The rest will battle for the remaining slot(s).

06-03-2004, 01:06 PM	#42
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Cooley and Kozlowski will compete for the starting h-back spot, while it looks like Rasby the the recently added Baxter will duke it out for the starting blocking TE. My bubble guys would be Royal, Ware and Sellers. Sellers seems to have the best chance at sticking, Ware is the biggest long shot and Royal falls somewhere in between.

06-03-2004, 01:56 PM	#43
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	Matty, interesting!! I thought Sellers would start out as the H-back with Cooley eventually getting the job. I'm sure you have more insight on this than I do... __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

06-03-2004, 02:07 PM	#44
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Not really, John, just my 2 cents

06-03-2004, 02:23 PM	#45
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	According to Joe C's minicamp reports, Sellers was the top guy at H-back, which was a factor in my thought that he may be the starter at the beginning of the season. But of course anything can happen by the end of training camp...

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