This is pissing me off!

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't mean to put words in your mouth here. But the implication is that those of us that don't get all worked up over a preseason don't care. That only true fans complain. It's the same assumption that people make about the players and coaches. Because they're not crying on the sidelines, getting angry during post-preseason game press conferences there's this feeling that they're not trying to win, that they don't care. And of course, that's not true.

Well, let's not forget, it was Joe Gibbs that first starting calling the players' effort into question during the postgame press conferences.

Very often, I find that people who criticize the team are called bandwagon fans. My point was to illustrate that if this was the case, then why are they here? They wouldn't waste time posting at a fan site complaining about poor performances if they are bandwagon fans. That statement can in no way be an indictment of those that refrain from bitching and moaning after a suck-ass preseason.

I wouldn't say that those who dismiss the preseason don't care ... living in La-La Land maybe, but sure, they're caring people.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Actually, the test of a true fan is whether they hang around when the team loses. I find that when things are going really well, I personally don't have much to post about here at the Warpath. When they're winning, I just sit back and enjoy, but when they don't look too good, preseason or not, I'm going to call them on it. Many times, people who criticize the team's performance are either labelled fairweather/bandwagon, but in fact, if they're taking the time to type away, explaining their frustrations they obviously care don't they? Otherwise they wouldn't be here.

Beleive me I am well aware of what a true fan is, and many of them are labeled bandwagon/fairweather because they're not verey familiar with the history of the team and piggy-back on others who do. True fans "STAY loyal, dedicated, and committed to the team regardless, and don't flip-flop all over the place just depending on how the team performs from time to time. I'm not suggesting in any way that you're one of them, but the area is full of them and it's been that way for a long time.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Beleive me I am well aware of what a true fan is, and many of them are labeled bandwagon/fairweather because they're not verey familiar with the history of the team and piggy-back on others who do. True fans "STAY loyal, dedicated, and committed to the team regardless, and don't flip-flop all over the place just depending on how the team performs from time to time. I'm not suggesting in any way that you're one of them, but the area is full of them and it's been that way for a long time.

I wore my redskins jersey to school even when they were getting smashed by the cardinals so yeah I sat through 6-10 5-11 Seasons! And the trent green era!

[Redskins8588]

I agree with GW, why game plan for a pre season game with people who are not going to be here next week? Save that stuff for this week coming up for the vets and rookies that will be on the team....

[doulos]

Guys, I live up her in Giant country with all the gloatin going on. "those who laugh last..."
Came down with family to fan day earlier this month and know we will rock

[MightyJoeGibbs]

The team isnt really concerned with preseason. Week1 is when they can go out and perform when it counts.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

The team isnt really concerned with preseason. Week1 is when they can go out and perform when it counts.

I AGREE! DID U SEE THOSE DRIVES THEY PUT TOGETHER IN THE SECOND HALF!?.............Imagine what our starters could do.............If we would of had randle el out there, just him lined up at reciver this game would of gone the OTHER WAY!

[saden1]

F*** this shit, September 11th, here we come!

[dmek25]

remember, we have joe gibbs as head coach. repeat 3 times and watch last seasons high lites. we only improved on what we we started last season

[That Guy]

honestly they looked better tonight. with scabs on the starting OL we could still run somewhat effectively. frost looked better, but i'd rather have koch, and i wish we had taken him.

archuleta looked terrible though, he got beat for 39 yards, 15yard (TD), and a couple other big plays. might as well make him a linebacker.

doughty mised the game entirely cause his wife was giving birth. I wonder if he had already claimed a spot, or if he's risking his chance...

[scowan]

Guys, I am going to throw this out there to see if any of you feel like I do right now as we wait for September 11. The excitement and anticipation that I had around the end of July, was almost totally crushed this last month watching our ineptitude during the preseason. I reeaaallllly hope Saunders and company know what they are doing, because if we had been watching a Spurrier coached team this past month, I would say we would not win a game this year! I know we are all full of optimisim, but really how do you guys feel after watching our terrible preseason?

I wonder how the optimism and the "wait and see" attitude on this board will change if we lose to Minnesota next week.

[MTK]

If we were watching a Spurrier coached team this past month we'd be 4-0, who are we kidding.

This staff knows what they're doing. I don't understand why people can even have a hint of doubt.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If we were watching a Spurrier coached team this past month we'd be 4-0, who are we kidding.

This staff knows what they're doing. I don't understand why people can even have a hint of doubt.

Matty, I guess I have doubts because while this is a Joe Gibbs coached team, it is an Al Saunder's coached offense, and in our effort to be vanilla and not show anything....... we have succeded. It is a double edged sword. We didn't give away anything and we didn't do anything. What is Preseasn for in the Redskins camp anyway?

[VTSkins897]

a hint of doubt might come from the fact that saunders' offense is complex. i don't think it will hold us back much but it's something to consider.

why don't some of you number people dig up his preseason numbers in KC. also, find out the chiefs regular season record his first year as OC there.

[vaoutlaws2006]

I am thinking more like 17 to 13 us with the defense putting a touchdown up for us. I think the offense is going to take some time to come around. I just dont think gibbs and saunders are just going to flip a switch and the offense is going to come out firing on all cylinders.