Duckett or Sellers

Bill B · 11-28-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I don't know if they want to sign Duckett as a free agent. By not playing him as much as we feel they should, his value decreases on the market, and maybe that is the intent. If I were Duckett. I would not at all be pleased with the situation.

Actually I would think his value may go up - why you may ask? Well with running backs who play full time get a ton of wear n tear. As long as Duckett has kept in shape wouldn't he be better off not getting banged up like Portis was this year? Teams know what TJ can do and I don't think he has to prove it this year - he steamrolled in Atlanta and Philly was going to sign him and the Skins got worried about the Eagles getting Duckett so they gave up the bank to stop it - anohter reason to get a GM - this was a short-term mentality move.

QBs who don't play get rusty, running backs who don't play but stay in shape get healthy and quickly regain their football instincts.

My opionion is TJ is loving this because he is getting paid while not ripping up his body.

SmootSmack · 11-28-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinnzz

duckett should get da bulk of the carries becuz ladell alwayz scaries me cuz every game he getz popped n fumble and if duckett getz da bulk i dnt think that will happen n let ladell spell for him but sellers need 2 do whut he did last year and give him the ball wit TJ n da backfield

what??

dgack · 11-28-2006, 01:38 AM

The guy who should be pissed is Big Mike, because Duckett being brought in demonstrates that the team doesn't have a whole lot of confidence in him to carry much of a load, which is absurd. OTOH, Joe didn't really use Betts at all when he first got here, either, and I think at one point after a preseason game where Ladell tore it up he was quoted as saying "Wow, I didn't know Ladell was that fast" or something.

Anyway, Duckett is almost assuredly gone next season but it is mystifying why we don't give it to him near the goal line for some downhill skull-cracking.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 11-28-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dgack

The guy who should be pissed is Big Mike, because Duckett being brought in demonstrates that the team doesn't have a whole lot of confidence in him to carry much of a load, which is absurd. OTOH, Joe didn't really use Betts at all when he first got here, either, and I think at one point after a preseason game where Ladell tore it up he was quoted as saying "Wow, I didn't know Ladell was that fast" or something.

Anyway, Duckett is almost assuredly gone next season but it is mystifying why we don't give it to him near the goal line for some downhill skull-cracking.

TJ Duckett runs this shit. HE RUNS>>>>THIS SHIT...end of story....give him the damn ball....HTTR!

MTK · 11-28-2006, 09:35 AM

I don't think this season will hurt Duckett's marketability at all. He's a proven back, teams know what he can do. He'll find another team no problem if we let him walk.

70Chip · 11-28-2006, 12:03 PM

Remember that Sellers had like 1 carry before this year. He was a TE/FB combination physical freak blocking specialist and I think the Redskins were pleasantly surprised that he can run as well as he does. But, don't be fooled. His nice runs are mainly the result of the surprise factor. Teams just don't expect him to have the ball. Then they are confronted with tackling this rambling wreck from bad angles. If he were to become a regular feature of the offense they would be better prepared to deal with him. Before last year he was not a big receiver either. This year teams are accounting for that flat pass at the goalline so his numbers are down. He is a nice change of pace and he is perhaps the most uniquely versatile player in the NFL but I don't think he can carry an offense or even be the short yardage back. He shouldn't have to be.

Having said all that, I think there are some games coming up where he could give defenses problems. The New Orleans game is a huge challenge. Probably the best remaining team we play. I think Sellers might be just the type of beast that a team that thinks it's already made the playoffs might be too self-satisfied to prepare for or tackle. Throw him a few passes, maybe run a trap play or two on first down. I think he would be an excellent receiver on an a halfback option pass. Who's going to cover him downfield? We can get more out of him but we need to pick our spots. I have all these plays in my head. Then I watch the games and they run the fucking swing pass to Betts 5 times. I'm waiting for Coach Gibbs to give me that call.

There is no reason that Duckett can't be effective in short-yardage. If T.J Duckett can't gain 1 yard then the problem lies up front.

marius · 11-28-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

If T.J Duckett can't gain 1 yard then the problem lies up front.

Never a truer word said.

The Zimmermans · 11-29-2006, 01:58 PM

betts should never get the ball on short yardage, he seems to trip up easily, and fumbles sometimes, should always be duckett or sellers

Monkeydad · 11-29-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

betts should never get the ball on short yardage, he seems to trip up easily, and fumbles sometimes, should always be duckett or sellers

Plus, we don't want him injured in a pile too. We have plenty of "big backs" but need to keep our outside runner healthy. Losing Portis AND Betts would not only be bad for the team, but for Campbell's development too. He'd have to throw a LOT more and the defenses will know it.

hail_2_da_skins · 11-29-2006, 05:57 PM

I think the Redskins should go big when they get inside the 20 yard line. That doesn't mean they can't pass, but if you lineup Sellers at fullback and Duckett at tailback with double tightends, they should be able to overpower teams. It doesn't matter if they run Duckett or Sellers. I say use both. Playaction pass to Coley.

11-28-2006, 01:38 AM	#33
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: Duckett or Sellers The guy who should be pissed is Big Mike, because Duckett being brought in demonstrates that the team doesn't have a whole lot of confidence in him to carry much of a load, which is absurd. OTOH, Joe didn't really use Betts at all when he first got here, either, and I think at one point after a preseason game where Ladell tore it up he was quoted as saying "Wow, I didn't know Ladell was that fast" or something. Anyway, Duckett is almost assuredly gone next season but it is mystifying why we don't give it to him near the goal line for some downhill skull-cracking.

11-28-2006, 09:35 AM	#35
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Duckett or Sellers I don't think this season will hurt Duckett's marketability at all. He's a proven back, teams know what he can do. He'll find another team no problem if we let him walk. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-28-2006, 12:03 PM	#36
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Duckett or Sellers Remember that Sellers had like 1 carry before this year. He was a TE/FB combination physical freak blocking specialist and I think the Redskins were pleasantly surprised that he can run as well as he does. But, don't be fooled. His nice runs are mainly the result of the surprise factor. Teams just don't expect him to have the ball. Then they are confronted with tackling this rambling wreck from bad angles. If he were to become a regular feature of the offense they would be better prepared to deal with him. Before last year he was not a big receiver either. This year teams are accounting for that flat pass at the goalline so his numbers are down. He is a nice change of pace and he is perhaps the most uniquely versatile player in the NFL but I don't think he can carry an offense or even be the short yardage back. He shouldn't have to be. Having said all that, I think there are some games coming up where he could give defenses problems. The New Orleans game is a huge challenge. Probably the best remaining team we play. I think Sellers might be just the type of beast that a team that thinks it's already made the playoffs might be too self-satisfied to prepare for or tackle. Throw him a few passes, maybe run a trap play or two on first down. I think he would be an excellent receiver on an a halfback option pass. Who's going to cover him downfield? We can get more out of him but we need to pick our spots. I have all these plays in my head. Then I watch the games and they run the fucking swing pass to Betts 5 times. I'm waiting for Coach Gibbs to give me that call. There is no reason that Duckett can't be effective in short-yardage. If T.J Duckett can't gain 1 yard then the problem lies up front. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-29-2006, 01:58 PM	#38
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Duckett or Sellers betts should never get the ball on short yardage, he seems to trip up easily, and fumbles sometimes, should always be duckett or sellers __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-29-2006, 05:57 PM	#40
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 68 Posts: 868	Re: Duckett or Sellers I think the Redskins should go big when they get inside the 20 yard line. That doesn't mean they can't pass, but if you lineup Sellers at fullback and Duckett at tailback with double tightends, they should be able to overpower teams. It doesn't matter if they run Duckett or Sellers. I say use both. Playaction pass to Coley. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

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