Randle El Signing Shows Why Skins Can't Compete

[brent]

Brian Mitchell would be your best chance to argue for Randle El. Brian Mitchell was an outstanding return guy and 3rd down back who seemed to be that extra wrinkle that made the Skins so dominant in 1991. I haven't looked up the stats, but is Randle El even a middle-of-the-pack return guy? He seems subpar at best. Mitchell was a rare player who seemed to have no specific role but made huge contributions to the Redskins over the years. I'm not sure even HE would warrant such outstanding compensation, though.

And many of you are just too willing to look past what the Redskins got for what the Redskins paid. For $5M bonus and $16M? Ok, maybe. But Randle El got paid #1 WR money. Look down the list of the top 30 NFL receivers and tell me you will ever find his name on it? Randle El is the wideout equivalent to the former Rams Az Hakim, not Torry Holt.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Randle-El was not signed to be JUST a punt returner -- he was signed to be a starting WR, IN ADDITION to being a punt returner. It's hard to compare his contract to that of other WRs who don't return punts. Which brings me to another point: ARE is a good punt returner, and whenever the guy has the ball he can make people miss. Don't forget that he returned one for a TD this year. (and if I remember correctly, he did it by splitting two defenders).

[GTripp0012]

I would be happy with EITHER Lloyd or Randle El, they both have their moments...but did we really need to get both, giving up two roster spots, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, and countless millions when our WR sitution simply lacked depth?

[pg86]

Randle el isnt used properly therefore he isnt as effective...My coach said this to me at practice today

[pg86]

We need to keep Randle el and Moss and Lloyd

[gabe1984]

To all the people who bash ARE, let's take a look at the past for a second. He was the third receiver in Pitt for a while behind Burress. It was not until he was the number 2 guy that they won the superbowl. I know that most of the credit goes to a great defense and a solid running game, but they had that before. Anytime ARE gets the ball he has the potential to make a big play, just like he did for Pitt last year, I'm glad we have him. Once we can get him the ball more I think he'll show to be a great acquisition. Plus, I heard he's a good locker room guy, someone that the players respect and always stays positive. We need a veteran guy like him to help lead this team.

[mlmpetert]

I like Randle El, and he will be worth the money if we can free up a roster place by using him as the third QB

[gortiz]

I know the whole 20/20 thing and hindsight...

But it is painfully obvious that the FO made SERIOUSLY BAAAAD judgement of character with the players they picked up this year. Not that they are bad guys, but I think that the Skins thougt these guys would respond to a team that showed them the appreciation and the $$ they didn't get from their previous teams. AND BOY WERE THEY WRONG.

ARE got BIG TIME money and he was not a Big Time Player. Same with Lloyd and Arch and Carter.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by brent

Signing Randle El to that ridiculous #1 WR contract is another in a long string of high-priced flops that characterizes the Snyder era. Like so many of these signings, most people knew the day the deal was ANNOUNCED that it was a terrible move. This is the biggest and most obvious disaster since Snyder signed Deion Sanders a year after it was obvious that Sanders had plummeted as a player.


There was and is no way Randle El could ever have lived up to that contract. That's $8M on signing bonus and $27M of salary cap money that could have brought in a gaggle of decent to superior players. As bad as Brunell may have been, who was he going to throw to? Santana Moss has been a non-factor most of the year, Randle El is largely useless as a wideout, which leaves Brandon Lloyd. Even the Eagles acquisition of Stallworth makes the Redskins look dumb in comparison, as he's better than BOTH Randle and Lloyd.

I don't care who your QB, or your coach, or anyone is. You aren't going to have success if you don't draft or bring in quality players who meet or exceed their pay scale.

And this is hardly an isolated incident. The incompetance is ongoing. Anyone think that TJ Duckett deal made any sense at all? The guys gone in another month, and so is our 3rd round pick.

First I want to say welcome to the board......

This general topic has been hashed and rehashed here ever since the team started losing games, and it became painfully obvious we were not going to play up to expectations. Randle El is a playmaker. His productivity has been curtailed because we haven't as yet, found the most creative ways to utilize his talents. He does have a long term contract, and considering the length of time we expect him to be here, I think he will become more effective as he's intergrated more into the offense. The jury is still out on different area's of this team, but some things need time to become the best that they will be.

I too have often shook my head on the Duckett trade, so if you have reservations about that one, you're not alone.

[celts32]

There seem to be much bigger fish to fry in this free agent class than ARE. He appears to be one of the only keepers IMO...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by celts32

There seem to be much bigger fish to fry in this free agent class than ARE. He appears to be one of the only keepers IMO...

agreed

[Longtimefan]

To be honest, I'm not even quite sure I understand the meaning of the topic of this thread, ie "Randle El Signing Show's Why Skins Can't Compete" What does the signing of Randle El have to do with the teams inability to compete? The reason the team can't/don't/won't/compete is because of their inconsistency, which we've witnessed since the pre-season. It's not that they can't, it's that they haven't, at least this year. That does not neccessarily mean we will continue down the same path.

As for Randle El there's two things I would like to see, one he can control, and the other, the coaches have to help him with. One, when he field's punts, I'd like to see him do more of what he did in the Colts game. He fielded the punt, and went straight ahead, split two defenders, and took it to the house. No more running east & west. Two, I would like to see the coaches find more creative ways of getting him the ball aside from the obvious. There are more ways to get him involved aside from the ocasional option pass, and the routine reverse. It's up to the coaches to get that acomplished.

[VTSkins897]

all along we knew that ARE was a bit overpaid. that's just how we roll. we sign no one unless it's for 30million. you should go apply as waterboy. he's still somewhat productive though so it's cool. it's one thing to pay the man and have him do shit.

[VTSkins897]

Originally Posted by VTSkins897

all along we knew that ARE was a bit overpaid. that's just how we roll. we sign no one unless it's for 30million. you should go apply as waterboy. he's still somewhat productive though so it's cool. it's one thing to pay the man and have him do shit.

shut up moron!

[SmootSmack]

All right VTSkins897 and VTSkins897. Both of you calm down