The Redskins Suck!!!!!!

itvnetop · 12-10-2006, 07:34 PM

our record is pretty horrendous, but compare this offense to two seasons ago... at least we're getting first downs and moving it into the red zone. even last season where we made the playoffs, we stalled moving the ball towards the end of the year.

i see progress with a new offense and a new QB... i saw our O-line absolutely manhandling philly. i see our defense finally getting on track. i see all of this without our best player on the field. this is something that's been coming together the past few weeks, not just today.

we just don't have the W to show for it... but if everyone stays in tact and we do nothing drastic during the offseason, we're all going to be singing a different tune next year. and i say that with confidence.

jsarno · 12-10-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

our record is pretty horrendous, but compare this offense to two seasons ago... at least we're getting first downs and moving it into the red zone. even last season where we made the playoffs, we stalled moving the ball towards the end of the year.

Just shows you how important D is!

chris36 · 12-10-2006, 07:41 PM

I hope you are right,but I don't think it will continue. I will say one thing, I am not a professional and really don't know what the hell I am talking about. It just looks like they have based their philosophies on not making a bunch of stupid moves like they did last year. The cap man probably assumes the players he breaks the bank for will be good for years. I am a MBA and it looks as if they have gone to far. The only way they can make it work is to give players that already suck, longer contracts.

skinsguy · 12-10-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

I hope you are right,but I don't think it will continue. I will say one thing, I am not a professional and really don't know what the hell I am talking about. It just looks like they have based their philosophies on not making a bunch of stupid moves like they did last year. The cap man probably assumes the players he breaks the bank for will be good for years. I am a MBA and it looks as if they have gone to far. The only way they can make it work is to give players that already suck, longer contracts.

Huh????

jsarno · 12-10-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

I am a MBA and it looks as if they have gone to far. The only way they can make it work is to give players that already suck, longer contracts.

Umm what? You are an MBA?
I actually have an MBA in Finance. (no joke) And I seriously can't figure out the cap and all it's rules. Isn't the capology book like 111 pages or something like that? Even the pro's have to study it forwards and backwards to get it. Given that you "are a MBA", I'm sure you have not studied this book.

Come clean, you're like 17 aren't you?

chris36 · 12-10-2006, 07:43 PM

We spent more last year than we ever did. I think that this off season will see very little spending by necessity.

skinsguy · 12-10-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

We spent more last year than we ever did. I think that this off season will see very little spending by necessity.

We will be spending as much as we can on the defense, because we definitely need to.

hurrykaine · 12-10-2006, 07:55 PM

I thought gregg williams was a genius and was elated when we signed him to a 3-yr coaching extension earlier this year, but I must admit I've done an about turn on that front. The pig headed ba$tard has been solely responsible for letting the front office believe that we'd be ok even after letting Pierce, Smoot, and Clark go. Glad he got his comeuppance this year.

With those 3 playing on this defense, we would've been ok, and in the playoff hunt this year. The offense is serviceable. Heck, Brunell at QB would have been fine through this season with those three on defense.

Think about what our defense would've been.
Daniels, Griffin, Salave'A/Goldston, Carter
Washington, Pierce, Lemar
Smoot/Rogers, Springs
Taylor, Clark

chris36 · 12-10-2006, 07:57 PM

Oh, they suck. And your nasty way of talking is starting to turn me on.

Pocket$ $traight · 12-10-2006, 08:00 PM

They really, really suck.

ncskinsfanec · 12-11-2006, 12:10 AM

Offense was a disaster last year?? Did you watch the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles games late in the season last year? Heck, even Ramsey looked good in that game against the Giants. But, to be fair, the offense did stink it up in the playoffs. Anyway, let's hope for a brighter future for this current bunch. Campbell has a lot of promise and the offense continues to improve. Having a healthy Portis next season will do wonders, although Betts has been teriffic lately. Hopefully we'll get Gaines Adams and Nate Clements in the offseason to help improve the defense.

dgack · 12-11-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Offense was a disaster last year?? Did you watch the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles games late in the season last year?

Yeah, and like I said, outside of a few big plays, most of which were prayers that Santana converted into scores, the offense was not that cohesive and consistent.

To be fair, I'm taking the running game for granted here and really talking about moving the ball when we need to / have to, which usually means passing -- but I still submit that last year, we were nowhere near as balanced and reliable as we need to be, and we are taking steps to rectify that now.

SkinEmAll · 12-11-2006, 09:36 AM

oh brother.............

dgack · 12-10-2006, 11:47 PM

I dont know what people were really expecting this year, but I had a very stark realization earlier this season, when in one of Wilbon's columns he pointed out that the big FA signings and playoff run last year totally conflicted with our approach of sitting Campbell and playing Brunell because "he gave us the best chance to win today".

Once it became apparent that the season was mostly over with, Campbell got the keys to the car, with little pressure, and it's essentially Rebuilding Time. Hell, even Saunders said it would take a full year for this offense to get into sync.

The plain fact is that last year, minus some key big plays, our offense was a disaster, and the defense was keeping us in games. We certainly didn't have a consistent offensive approach that was effective, other than short passes to Santana that he freelanced into long TD's after the catch.

This year with Jason, I'm seeing a lot more to feel good about, it's just that our defense isn't carrying the load it did last year, so it's ALL on the offense's shoulders.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-11-2006, 09:15 AM

Is this kind of thread the reason Daseal and others left? What does saying "the Redskins players suck, the Redskins coaches suck" add to the site?

12-10-2006, 07:34 PM	#1
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 49 Posts: 3,007	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! our record is pretty horrendous, but compare this offense to two seasons ago... at least we're getting first downs and moving it into the red zone. even last season where we made the playoffs, we stalled moving the ball towards the end of the year. i see progress with a new offense and a new QB... i saw our O-line absolutely manhandling philly. i see our defense finally getting on track. i see all of this without our best player on the field. this is something that's been coming together the past few weeks, not just today. we just don't have the W to show for it... but if everyone stays in tact and we do nothing drastic during the offseason, we're all going to be singing a different tune next year. and i say that with confidence.

12-10-2006, 07:41 PM	#3
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! I hope you are right,but I don't think it will continue. I will say one thing, I am not a professional and really don't know what the hell I am talking about. It just looks like they have based their philosophies on not making a bunch of stupid moves like they did last year. The cap man probably assumes the players he breaks the bank for will be good for years. I am a MBA and it looks as if they have gone to far. The only way they can make it work is to give players that already suck, longer contracts.

12-10-2006, 07:43 PM	#6
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! We spent more last year than we ever did. I think that this off season will see very little spending by necessity.

12-10-2006, 07:55 PM	#8
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 53 Posts: 762	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! I thought gregg williams was a genius and was elated when we signed him to a 3-yr coaching extension earlier this year, but I must admit I've done an about turn on that front. The pig headed ba$tard has been solely responsible for letting the front office believe that we'd be ok even after letting Pierce, Smoot, and Clark go. Glad he got his comeuppance this year. With those 3 playing on this defense, we would've been ok, and in the playoff hunt this year. The offense is serviceable. Heck, Brunell at QB would have been fine through this season with those three on defense. Think about what our defense would've been. Daniels, Griffin, Salave'A/Goldston, Carter Washington, Pierce, Lemar Smoot/Rogers, Springs Taylor, Clark

12-10-2006, 07:57 PM	#9
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! Oh, they suck. And your nasty way of talking is starting to turn me on.

12-10-2006, 08:00 PM	#10
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! They really, really suck.

12-11-2006, 12:10 AM	#11
ncskinsfanec Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 432	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! Offense was a disaster last year?? Did you watch the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles games late in the season last year? Heck, even Ramsey looked good in that game against the Giants. But, to be fair, the offense did stink it up in the playoffs. Anyway, let's hope for a brighter future for this current bunch. Campbell has a lot of promise and the offense continues to improve. Having a healthy Portis next season will do wonders, although Betts has been teriffic lately. Hopefully we'll get Gaines Adams and Nate Clements in the offseason to help improve the defense.

12-11-2006, 09:36 AM	#13
SkinEmAll Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BillysBurg, Va. Posts: 489	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! oh brother.............

12-10-2006, 11:47 PM	#14
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! I dont know what people were really expecting this year, but I had a very stark realization earlier this season, when in one of Wilbon's columns he pointed out that the big FA signings and playoff run last year totally conflicted with our approach of sitting Campbell and playing Brunell because "he gave us the best chance to win today". Once it became apparent that the season was mostly over with, Campbell got the keys to the car, with little pressure, and it's essentially Rebuilding Time. Hell, even Saunders said it would take a full year for this offense to get into sync. The plain fact is that last year, minus some key big plays, our offense was a disaster, and the defense was keeping us in games. We certainly didn't have a consistent offensive approach that was effective, other than short passes to Santana that he freelanced into long TD's after the catch. This year with Jason, I'm seeing a lot more to feel good about, it's just that our defense isn't carrying the load it did last year, so it's ALL on the offense's shoulders.

12-11-2006, 09:15 AM	#15
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: The Redskins Suck!!!!!! Is this kind of thread the reason Daseal and others left? What does saying "the Redskins players suck, the Redskins coaches suck" add to the site?

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