Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl

hooskins · 12-19-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

my best friend is a cowboy fan, and he hates roy williams. says he couldnt cover me or you. and i think cooley got a jam job

As much as I hate roy he has the best FS stats this year. He has alot of picks and tackles. He deserved it this year.

CrazyCanuck · 12-19-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I guess for me it's because I hold him to a higher standard. Plus the last two years he didn't have the excuse of he was protecting the blindside. I just feel like I heard his name called on false starts at critical times too often the past few years.

Agreed.

Redskin · 12-19-2006, 11:54 PM

Hey im happy a redskin made it even if its not in a position that gets a lot of attention

saden1 · 12-20-2006, 03:08 AM

Wow, that has to be one of the weakest NFC pro bowl roster I have seen in a long time.

p.s. I hope the NFC gets crushed in the SB and Pro Bowl.

MTK · 12-20-2006, 09:28 AM

Samuels is one of those guys most won't appreciate until he's gone and we're struggling to try to find a quality left tackle.

Redskinhog1963 · 12-20-2006, 09:46 AM

look at who did'nt make it.tom brady,reggie bush,marion barber,dante hall,
santanna moss did'nt have the numbers,but how many times did michael irvin go when he should'nt have?how can they leave chris cooley off?tom brady would get my vote every year,so would vince young look what he's done for the titans!

GhettoDogAllStars · 12-20-2006, 09:54 AM

Romo does not deserve to be in the pro bowl ahead of Michael Vick. Vick has played all season, he's got comparable passing numbers, and he set the ALL TIME rushing record for a QB. Not to mention he'll probably finish with 1000+ rushing yards. How can you overlook that? Romo over Vick = total BS.

MTK · 12-20-2006, 09:56 AM

Vick = garbage.

I'd rather see Romo.

TheMalcolmConnection · 12-20-2006, 10:02 AM

Just a quick look at the stats on ESPN and instantly you can find like 4-5 QBs that are far more deserving than Romo.

GhettoDogAllStars · 12-20-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Vick = garbage.

I'd rather see Romo.

Haha. Good argument.

From NFL.com

-Passing-
Romo: 183 of 276 for 2440 yards and 16 TDs with 10 INTs (98.4)
Vick: 187 of 354 for 2284 yards and 19 TDs with 11 INTs (77.9)

-Rushing-
Romo: 44 yards on 27 carries with no TDs
Vick: 990 yards on 116 carries with 2 TDs

I'd argue that both have been impact players for their teams, and have been major contributors to winning. However, Vick has started all 14 games, and Romo has only started in 8.

Judging by passing numbers alone, I'd probably send Romo. But, when you consider that Vick will have over 1000 yards rushing, it's a no-brainer. How can you discount the rushing yards?

12thMan · 12-20-2006, 10:21 AM

Ooop...wrong thread.

Please delete.

GhettoDogAllStars · 12-20-2006, 10:27 AM

I just don't think half a season justifies a pro bowl selection, unless the stats are through the roof -- which Romo's aren't. Not to mention, Vick's passing stats would be better if his receivers could catch.

However, the big thing that stand out in my mind is: Vick will be the first QB to rush for over 1000 yards in a season, and he won't even make the pro bowl (with above average passing numbers). :confused:

redsk1 · 12-20-2006, 10:28 AM

I think Samuels deserves it. He' s had a good year. Most of us watch every single game and play. We're going to notice if he gets beat occasionally. Everybody gets beat occasionally. We should be grateful to have him.

SmootSmack · 12-20-2006, 10:32 AM

Did Tony Romo beat the Saints? No. Did Jason Campbell beat the Saints? Yes.

We wuz robbed!!!!

Seriously though, is there a rule that says 3 QBs have to be picked? Couldn't they have just taken Brees and Bulger and used that 3rd QB position on another position instead? Because there aren't really three deserving NFC QBs this year

MTK · 12-20-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Haha. Good argument.

From NFL.com

-Passing-
Romo: 183 of 276 for 2440 yards and 16 TDs with 10 INTs (98.4)
Vick: 187 of 354 for 2284 yards and 19 TDs with 11 INTs (77.9)

-Rushing-
Romo: 44 yards on 27 carries with no TDs
Vick: 990 yards on 116 carries with 2 TDs

I'd argue that both have been impact players for their teams, and have been major contributors to winning. However, Vick has started all 14 games, and Romo has only started in 8.

Judging by passing numbers alone, I'd probably send Romo. But, when you consider that Vick will have over 1000 yards rushing, it's a no-brainer. How can you discount the rushing yards?

What about Vick's pathetic 52.8 completion percentage? He has just 2284 passing yards (163 per game), and then there's that very mediocre QB rating. He has the rushing yards, but that only goes to prove how one dimensional he is as a QB. He didn't deserve to get in last year and he certainly doesn't deserve it this year. Romo has more yards passing in 6 less starts and is only 3 TDs behind him!

Believe me I'm not a huge fan of Romo getting in based on just 8 starts, but it just goes to show how weak the NFC is regarding QBs this year. If McNabb hadn't gone down he would have been a lock.

12-19-2006, 11:54 PM	#33
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12-20-2006, 03:08 AM	#34
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Wow, that has to be one of the weakest NFC pro bowl roster I have seen in a long time. p.s. I hope the NFC gets crushed in the SB and Pro Bowl. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

12-20-2006, 09:28 AM	#35
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Samuels is one of those guys most won't appreciate until he's gone and we're struggling to try to find a quality left tackle. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-20-2006, 09:46 AM	#36
Redskinhog1963 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: somewhere on this planet Age: 61 Posts: 178	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl look at who did'nt make it.tom brady,reggie bush,marion barber,dante hall, santanna moss did'nt have the numbers,but how many times did michael irvin go when he should'nt have?how can they leave chris cooley off?tom brady would get my vote every year,so would vince young look what he's done for the titans! __________________ Parcells' legacy with the Cowboys can be framed this way: Instead of joining Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer as coaches who led them to championships, he leaves lumped with Chan Gailey and Dave Campo. (ESPN QUOTE)

12-20-2006, 09:54 AM	#37
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 42 Posts: 2,762	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Romo does not deserve to be in the pro bowl ahead of Michael Vick. Vick has played all season, he's got comparable passing numbers, and he set the ALL TIME rushing record for a QB. Not to mention he'll probably finish with 1000+ rushing yards. How can you overlook that? Romo over Vick = total BS. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

12-20-2006, 09:56 AM	#38
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Vick = garbage. I'd rather see Romo. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-20-2006, 10:02 AM	#39
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Just a quick look at the stats on ESPN and instantly you can find like 4-5 QBs that are far more deserving than Romo. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

12-20-2006, 10:21 AM	#41
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Ooop...wrong thread. Please delete.

12-20-2006, 10:27 AM	#42
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 42 Posts: 2,762	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl I just don't think half a season justifies a pro bowl selection, unless the stats are through the roof -- which Romo's aren't. Not to mention, Vick's passing stats would be better if his receivers could catch. However, the big thing that stand out in my mind is: Vick will be the first QB to rush for over 1000 yards in a season, and he won't even make the pro bowl (with above average passing numbers). :confused: __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

12-20-2006, 10:28 AM	#43
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl I think Samuels deserves it. He' s had a good year. Most of us watch every single game and play. We're going to notice if he gets beat occasionally. Everybody gets beat occasionally. We should be grateful to have him.

12-20-2006, 10:32 AM	#44
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl Did Tony Romo beat the Saints? No. Did Jason Campbell beat the Saints? Yes. We wuz robbed!!!! Seriously though, is there a rule that says 3 QBs have to be picked? Couldn't they have just taken Brees and Bulger and used that 3rd QB position on another position instead? Because there aren't really three deserving NFC QBs this year __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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