Redskins-Rams: Postgame Thoughts

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

If you can watch the replay, please do. It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things, that was not on the ball.

Exactly, he was putting his left down to brace against the fall. It wasn't a great play, he didn't come outta nowhere, he had Betts wrapped up. It was a smart play. One Betts should have expected...

[mike340]

I just saw it again and stand corrected. I still feel it was an excellent defensive play and not Betts's fault. (The left hand was trying to keep the defender away.)

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

If you can watch the replay, please do. It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things, that was not on the ball.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by mike340

I just saw it again and stand corrected. I still feel it was an excellent defensive play and not Betts's fault. (The left hand was trying to keep the defender away.)

It was a head's up play by the defender, but it's a play Betts should prevent. I don't care if that means not fighting for extra yards. Just get down and don't fumble. The most important thing to do in that situation is not getting 2 more yards, it's not turning it over. That's why the Skins were calling safe plays. That play is something that guys try to do all the time. Rarely does it succeed. Betts needs to keep his head in it right there and cover up the ball.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by mike340

I just saw it again and stand corrected. I still feel it was an excellent defensive play and not Betts's fault. (The left hand was trying to keep the defender away.)

It was a good defensive play, but given the situation, there is no way I'd go and say it wasn't Betts's fault. You have got to get both hands on the ball when guys are running up on you from behind (especially in a tie game with 2 mins left!). It's fundamental.

[BigSKINBauer]

The skins always ruin christmas. I don't celebrate it or i would be even more upset. Last year was great but it was just a tease. It set me up to think this year would actually be good. I don't know how much longer I have to wait until i see my skins win a few playoff games. We are horrible and it is sad to see. We could easily be 5-11 to finish and that puts us back 4 years. I don't get it. I have been a fan a while and never have seen the skins actually be good. F... all the good teams and their fans.

That is the only thought i have after this game.

[skinsfan69]

Does anyone remember last years game against the Rams? Well the difference was that Bulger played in this game and he was out last year. Bulger has real good chemistry w/ his WR's. He was thowing the ball well before any of his WR's broke out of their routes. Let's hope that JC develops that with Moss, LLoyd and ARE during the offseason. WR's were nowhere to be found today.

[itvnetop]

guys, it's football... fumbles happen... it's too easy to say betts should have done this or that to prevent it, but sometimes on the field balls are knocked away in game speed. it's unfortunate betts coughed it up when he did, but he had an outstanding game otherwise. the last few weeks, everyone has been praising his play (much of what has to do with the o-line's success) and after this fumble, people say he should be traded.

don't let the extreme emotions rule your general perception. the guy has shown to be a steady contributor, he reads his blocks, cuts up the field quickly, shown great vision and can catch out of the backfield. He makes a crucial fumble that probably prevents a win- but stephen jackson fumbles late in the game that gives us a chance to tie. jeff wilkins misses a 41 yarder that should have won it for the rams. there were several opportunities for either team to grab the win.

it's football and it happens. it was an exciting game, but remember betts' fumble wasn't the end all be all to the final result. it looks as though sean springs is a bigger part of the D than we thought... taylor seems lost without him in the backfield.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things...

Mmmhmmm...I'll bet it was. Visions of Redskinettes dancing in his head

Seriously though, I don't know (actually I doubt) if this streak of great running along with the new contract has gotten to Betts' head. But, as much as I hate that he fumbled, a humbling experience like this could be good for him. Let's see if he can bounce back next week.

As for the defense...sigh.

And man how it would've been nice to have gotten Bruce last off-season.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

guys, it's football... fumbles happen... it's too easy to say betts should have done this or that to prevent it, but sometimes on the field balls are knocked away in game speed. it's unfortunate betts coughed it up when he did, but he had an outstanding game otherwise. the last few weeks, everyone has been praising his play (much of what has to do with the o-line's success) and after this fumble, people say he should be traded.

don't let the extreme emotions rule your general perception. the guy has shown to be a steady contributor, he reads his blocks, cuts up the field quickly, shown great vision and can catch out of the backfield. He makes a crucial fumble that probably prevents a win- but stephen jackson fumbles late in the game that gives us a chance to tie. jeff wilkins misses a 41 yarder that should have won it for the rams. there were several opportunities for either team to grab the win.

it's football and it happens. it was an exciting game, but remember betts' fumble wasn't the end all be all to the final result. it looks as though sean springs is a bigger part of the D than we thought... taylor seems lost without him in the backfield.

Nice post. It concerns me that Taylor is lost without Clark, lost without Springs, lost without Sportscurmudgeon. I understand this is a team sport, but he's supposed to be a star in this league. He can't be so dependent on others for his success on the field.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

The QB was pretty bad today. I really like him, but not today. He gets a D grade. I thought Rocky looked quite good though! Don't get me started on Holdman. The fact that he is actually still playing makes me question the entire Dfensive coaching staff. He is horrible!!!!!!

Holdman was bad today as was Marshall. Holdman just does not have the ability to play at the NFL level. And Marshall just can't get off blocks.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Nice post. It concerns me that Taylor is lost without Clark, lost without Springs, lost without Sportscurmudgeon. I understand this is a team sport, but he's supposed to be a star in this league. He can't be so dependent on others for his success on the field.

So true. I'm tired of all the talk how he misses Clark. Get over it and ball like your suppose too. Taylor played like crap today. Plain and simple.

[VTSkins897]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Is this grounds for a ban? It should be. Seriously.

probably but i'd calm down. everyone is upset and it's almost x-mas. be a man it's nothing to cry about.

[VTSkins897]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So true. I'm tired of all the talk how he misses Clark. Get over it and ball like your suppose too. Taylor played like crap today. Plain and simple.

absolutely agree.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Wow, I might have to banish my own thread to thread hell.

EVERYONE needs to chill out. If you're too pissed to see straight (which would be understandable), wait until you have calmed down to post. Engaging in personal attacks on the site is not only really lame and typically reserved for the resident 12 year olds, but its a bannable offense. So, let's play nice and look forward to next week's game where we'll keep the Gmen outta the playoffs and watch their team implode.

lol! It's probably best not to post threads about who or what lost a game for us on the sameday that we lose a very winnable overtime game.

Anyways, after everybody opens their Christmas presents up tomorrow, they will calm down, reflect on today, and realize that our team's reasons for losing really comes down to a very thin secondary. Betts' fumble, although hurt us, wasn't why we lost the game today, neither was clock management. Heck, I thought our offense was extremely solid today.

Adding depth to our secondary next year shows us a division winning team that has home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

[jamf]

Holdman needs turn in his playbook. He was aweful.

My biggest concern is Campbell. 50% completion percentage is not going to get it done. He really struggles on 3rd downs. Late in the 4th, On 3rd and 4, we rushed the ball. If we had any confidence in Campbell they would've thrown.
3 Completions to WR's is a joke. More than Half his yards from cooley is a joke.
If this kid with the big arm isnt going to throw downfield, Why is he in there? He isn't accurate on the short throws. His release to too slow for quickpasses.
It looked like he had plenty of time today, I think he was only touched once and no one was ever open? QB play was just as bad as the defence proven by the fact that we ran on 3rd and 4 from our 34 yardline with 3 minutes remaining. I don't care that we put up alot of points either, he still played like a chump.

Taylor played like crap. But a few of his mistakes were from trying to recover from a teammates mistakes.

G.Williams is having some problems. Playing off coverages requires a lot of pressure. We got very little. Any QB can sit back and pick apart out zone defence with a little time.

Btw, the Ade got a costly penalty called on him. But he actually was playing his WR. He Matched up with a probowl WR and tried to shut him down(played great outside of that one play).
What is Rogers doing out there? He looks like he is playing safety. He is so scared of getting beat deep, he gives up Intermediate routes all day long. If this fool is scared of getting beat, he is playing the wrong position. I honestly would rather see Jimoh try to play corner like a real corner and get beat that see rogers play off and give up 1st downs all day.