ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will....

EternalEnigma21 · 03-10-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisl4064

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

i see you're from the middle east... enemy of freedom would be an enemy of fred smoot...

j/k... but your sig tells me all i need to know about your football mindset... to each his own

sandtrapjack · 03-10-2007, 09:22 PM

Wow, guys the sky is not falling with Smoot coming back to town. I think everyone is getting overly concerned about the secondary because the front 7 were not near as effective in 2006 as they were in 2005.

From the games that I saw in 2005 compared to 2006, the defensive front (in '05) was much more effective at getting in the QB's face early on a and forcing an early release.

That same quality was not there for the Skins in 2006.

Show me a defense that gets early pressure on a QB and even a mediocre defensive back can excel from that.

So you get Smoot in the offseason, and in April get a day one DE and/or LB and see where it gets you from there. I think the 'Skins will be just fine.

4mrusmc · 03-10-2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Wow, guys the sky is not falling with Smoot coming back to town. I think everyone is getting overly concerned about the secondary because the front 7 were not near as effective in 2006 as they were in 2005.

From the games that I saw in 2005 compared to 2006, the defensive front (in '05) was much more effective at getting in the QB's face early on a and forcing an early release.

That same quality was not there for the Skins in 2006.

Show me a defense that gets early pressure on a QB and even a mediocre defensive back can excel from that.

So you get Smoot in the offseason, and in April get a day one DE and/or LB and see where it gets you from there. I think the 'Skins will be just fine.

Yeah sandtrap, you hit nail on the head! We simply had no pressure on the qb. And, another (unpopular) reason was because of lavar NOT being here. Throw stones anyone???????????

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-10-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

Yeah sandtrap, you hit nail on the head! We simply had no pressure on the qb. And, another (unpopular) reason was because of lavar NOT being here. Throw stones anyone???????????

i miss lavar arrington the pre knee injury arrington and even some of the post injury arrington he was really nice i wouldnt be opposed to bring him back for a team friendly contract and i know i am going to get ripped for this

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-10-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisl4064

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

dude really what the hell are you talking about this was a great move fred smoot is the only redskins to EVER lead the skins in interceptions his first three seasons in the league and he was a great cover corner for us and will be a great number 2 this year

HAIL TO GENERAL SILKY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!! aka (fred smoot)

JGisLordOfTheRings · 03-10-2007, 09:38 PM

Bah...Lavar can suck an egg. He was physically talanted but DAMN was he annoying! If we can sign a decent DE in the draft on day, like sandtrapjack said, we should be just fine. Having Smooty back will help the secondary and maybe the DL play will increase in explosiveness as well.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-10-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

Bah...Lavar can suck an egg. He was physically talanted but DAMN was he annoying! If we can sign a decent DE in the draft on day, like sandtrapjack said, we should be just fine. Having Smooty back will help the secondary and maybe the DL play will increase in explosiveness as well.

while this is true you cant say that the guy wasnt a playmaker and whatever happened to the supposed bly trade and did we even sign travis fisher cause i cant find a source that says that we did

PFunk26 · 03-10-2007, 09:49 PM

I'd like to add that coming from a Viking Fan family I watch the Vikes alot to, they never get any pressure in the passing game either, They are very similar to us, the williams in the middle can stop the run but no outside pressure, leading to poor corner play

EternalEnigma21 · 03-10-2007, 10:16 PM

I just have feeling on our team that he will be a number 2... rogers isn't showing that much promis yet, and we should be seeing something from our #9 pick by now...

4mrusmc · 03-10-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

I just have feeling on our team that he will be a number 2... rogers isn't showing that much promis yet, and we should be seeing something from our #9 pick by now...

Agreed tuna. But, this offseason our boy c-los will be training with D. Green and (gasp) neon deion. C-los just had the sophomore jinx this past year. I think we all expect great things from him this coming season. He just needs to stop giving the receiver a 10 yard cushion.

Skins_4_Lyfe · 03-10-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

Agreed tuna. But, this offseason our boy c-los will be training with D. Green and (gasp) neon deion. C-los just had the sophomore jinx this past year. I think we all expect great things from him this coming season. He just needs to stop giving the receiver a 10 yard cushion.

I would'nt get my hopes up... this is what I think of Carlos

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 03-10-2007, 10:22 PM

i'm glad smoot back should have never let smoot go in the first place.

hesscl34 · 03-10-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisl4064

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

Get a life and become a real fan... He's better than what we have so be happy and stop yapping.

GiantsSuck703 · 03-11-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisl4064

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

Well heres my problem with what your saying, does Jeremiah Trotter ring a bell, he was an average player as a Redskin, but a dominant MLB for the Eagles, NFL players have a comfort level just like any other human being. Fred Smoot openly has said he didnt like being in Minnesota, hes a Redskin, those were Joe Gibbs words, and i have a feeling that Joe Gibbs is a better judge of talent than you are. Fred Smoot is going to surprise alot of people, the sad thing is it seems you have already forgotten after two short years, that Fred Smoot became a fan favorite, not for his name, but for his heart and his play on the field. I welcome back Fred Smoot, and will be right there saying "I told you so" when he plays like the old Fred Smoot, the Redskin Fred Smoot.

dmek25 · 03-11-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Well heres my problem with what your saying, does Jeremiah Trotter ring a bell, he was an average player as a Redskin, but a dominant MLB for the Eagles, NFL players have a comfort level just like any other human being. Fred Smoot openly has said he didnt like being in Minnesota, hes a Redskin, those were Joe Gibbs words, and i have a feeling that Joe Gibbs is a better judge of talent than you are. Fred Smoot is going to surprise alot of people, the sad thing is it seems you have already forgotten after two short years, that Fred Smoot became a fan favorite, not for his name, but for his heart and his play on the field. I welcome back Fred Smoot, and will be right there saying "I told you so" when he plays like the old Fred Smoot, the Redskin Fred Smoot.

while i like smooty coming back, you assessment of trotter is way off base. trotter is good in the eagles system. but in my eyes one of the most over rated players in this league.

03-10-2007, 09:22 PM	#2
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,994	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Wow, guys the sky is not falling with Smoot coming back to town. I think everyone is getting overly concerned about the secondary because the front 7 were not near as effective in 2006 as they were in 2005. From the games that I saw in 2005 compared to 2006, the defensive front (in '05) was much more effective at getting in the QB's face early on a and forcing an early release. That same quality was not there for the Skins in 2006. Show me a defense that gets early pressure on a QB and even a mediocre defensive back can excel from that. So you get Smoot in the offseason, and in April get a day one DE and/or LB and see where it gets you from there. I think the 'Skins will be just fine.

03-10-2007, 09:38 PM	#6
JGisLordOfTheRings Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond VA Age: 40 Posts: 2,584	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Bah...Lavar can suck an egg. He was physically talanted but DAMN was he annoying! If we can sign a decent DE in the draft on day, like sandtrapjack said, we should be just fine. Having Smooty back will help the secondary and maybe the DL play will increase in explosiveness as well. __________________ The redskins pocket is like my love life.....nonexistent and disappointing. -OnceWeWereKings

03-10-2007, 09:49 PM	#8
PFunk26 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Grafton, WI Age: 46 Posts: 355	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... I'd like to add that coming from a Viking Fan family I watch the Vikes alot to, they never get any pressure in the passing game either, They are very similar to us, the williams in the middle can stop the run but no outside pressure, leading to poor corner play __________________ 'I don’t care what it takes, we’re not leaving here without another ring.’ ”

03-10-2007, 10:22 PM	#12
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 59 Posts: 890	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... i'm glad smoot back should have never let smoot go in the first place.

03-10-2007, 10:16 PM	#9
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 46 Posts: 2,958	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... I just have feeling on our team that he will be a number 2... rogers isn't showing that much promis yet, and we should be seeing something from our #9 pick by now... __________________ I am the brute squad.

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