Legalize it!

[Hog1]

[quote=Mattyk72;296063]Right, I'm talking about things that are unprocessed. Things like coke, booze, etc., come from natural ingredients of course but need to be processed into their final forms.

I'm not sure about opium, but they do use the poppy seeds for food. I'm not 100% sure of the process of turning the plant into it's drug form though.

Well, just an fyi, you got your Peyote
Peyote - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you got your Coca leaf
Coca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you got your mushrooms
Psilocybin mushrooms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure there are many more I am not aware of

[MTK]

[quote=Hog1;296545]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Right, I'm talking about things that are unprocessed. Things like coke, booze, etc., come from natural ingredients of course but need to be processed into their final forms.

I'm not sure about opium, but they do use the poppy seeds for food. I'm not 100% sure of the process of turning the plant into it's drug form though.

Well, just an fyi, you got your Peyote
Peyote - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you got your Coca leaf
Coca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you got your mushrooms
Psilocybin mushrooms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure there are many more I am not aware of

Thanks, I figured there were more.

Those should all be legal too

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Right, I'm talking about things that are unprocessed. Things like coke, booze, etc., come from natural ingredients of course but need to be processed into their final forms.

I'm not sure about opium, but they do use the poppy seeds for food. I'm not 100% sure of the process of turning the plant into it's drug form though.

Well since Im from New Mexico I can think of one...peyote.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

Well since Im from New Mexico I can think of one...peyote.

thanks, we did hit on this about 10 pages ago

[jsarno]

Hey, when my kids are old enough, they can make decisions for themselves and smoke whatever they want, and do whatever drugs they want. In fact, I encourage it!

[jsarno]

LOL...just kidding.
Like Mr. Mackey says: Drugs are bad mmkay. I can't imagine the damage kids do to themselves when they do most of these drugs. Im an advocate for weed, but I still wouldn't want my kids doing it. Just cause it's legal doesn't mean it's OK. Drinking is legal, and I wouldn't want my kids to do it.

ps- where's my $25?

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

At the root of the issue is this, it grows out of the freaking ground. All you have to do is dry it out and smoke it. There's no process to making it, it's 100% natural. It amazes me that something that grows from the earth is deemed illegal.

Is there anything else that grows naturally that is illegal?

Shrooms, Coke, Toad, jypsy weed...........................

[dall-assblows]

i say hell yes

if your allowd to drink, which is much worse than getting high, it should be legal.

driving while high is much easier then driving while drunk, i've done both. i know its bad but...........

[Schneed10]

Warning: Opinionated Schneed Alert

I get frustrated with this discussion because I think marijuana is for losers and can't understand why people would want to smoke it. If it's going to be legal, then the government damn well better find a way to profit from it (tax the living shit out of it like they do tobacco and alcohol). If more morons are going to be getting stoned in my country, the government better have more resources to distribute to those citizens who choose not to live their lives like a bunch of apathetic 14 year olds.

If you're going to act like a moron, you should have to pay for it.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Warning: Opinionated Schneed Alert

I get frustrated with this discussion because I think marijuana is for losers and can't understand why people would want to smoke it. If it's going to be legal, then the government damn well better find a way to profit from it (tax the living shit out of it like they do tobacco and alcohol). If more morons are going to be getting stoned in my country, the government better have more resources to distribute to those citizens who choose not to live their lives like a bunch of apathetic 14 year olds.

If you're going to act like a moron, you should have to pay for it.

I guess I'm a moron!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Warning: Opinionated Schneed Alert

I get frustrated with this discussion because I think marijuana is for losers and can't understand why people would want to smoke it. If it's going to be legal, then the government damn well better find a way to profit from it (tax the living shit out of it like they do tobacco and alcohol). If more morons are going to be getting stoned in my country, the government better have more resources to distribute to those citizens who choose not to live their lives like a bunch of apathetic 14 year olds.

If you're going to act like a moron, you should have to pay for it.

So is drinking for losers too?

If not, other than legality why the difference?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Do you feel the same way about booze?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Do you feel the same way about booze?

Yes, when consumed in mass quantities.

Studies show that alcohol when consumed in moderation has vast health benefits: red wines for antioxidants, reduction in blood pressure, positive effects on heart disease.

When consumed in mass quantity, it's damaging to the liver, impairs judgment, causes irrational behavior, and is addicting.

Nobody starts acting like a moron when they've had 1 or 2 drinks. Nobody's health deteriorates.

As soon as you spark one up, you're a moron already.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yes, when consumed in mass quantities.

Studies show that alcohol when consumed in moderation has vast health benefits: red wines for antioxidants, reduction in blood pressure, positive effects on heart disease.

When consumed in mass quantity, it's damaging to the liver, impairs judgment, causes irrational behavior, and is addicting.

Nobody starts acting like a moron when they've had 1 or 2 drinks. Nobody's health deteriorates.

As soon as you spark one up, you're a moron already.

Marijuana also has many documented health benefits.

So I guess you're in favor of moderation? That can be done just the same with pot vs. booze.

I'm not hearing much of an objective argument from you on this.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Marijuana also has many documented health benefits.

So I guess you're in favor of moderation? That can be done just the same with pot vs. booze.

I'm not hearing much of an objective argument from you on this.

The objective part of the argument is that while tobacco is terrible even in tiny amounts, and while booze is terrible in excess, at least the government profits from their sale, meaning they have more funds to put to use. People act like the government taxing these things is wrong; that makes no sense. If you are going to use substances that destroy your health, or in a manner that destroys your health, or negatively affects society around you, then you should have to pay for it.

So my argument is keep marijuana banned, unless the US and/or states can figure out a way to profit from it. We could use more schools, roadway enhancement, lower health insurance for those of us who lead healthy lifestyles, etcetera. If marijuana tax helps pay for it, then OK, I'll live with it. I'll have all the losers to thank for improved government services.