Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

ok, but read and you see that $300 or $350 is an annual fee. So it's $1,050 for a traffic ticket on top of the ticket.

[skinsfan_nn]

Yea these Civil fines are gonna be fine in my book, maybe some of these fools out here will lose there PRIVLEDGE TO DRIVE.

AND PUT THE HAMMER ON THE DRUNKS....NO PROBLEM!

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Yea these Civil fines are gonna be fine in my book, maybe some of these fools out here will lose there PRIVLEDGE TO DRIVE.

AND PUT THE HAMMER ON THE DRUNKS....NO PROBLEM!

That's how I see it. Not affecting just the poor but the insanely stupid. I see it as a good way to get some of these kids licenses away that demonstrate daily that they have no business driving while my wife and child are on the same roads. Can't pay the fine? Oh well, looks like your parents will.

Hmm...now may be a good time to become a defense lawyer specializing in traffic offenses.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

That's how I see it. Not affecting just the poor but the insanely stupid. I see it as a good way to get some of these kids licenses away that demonstrate daily that they have no business driving while my wife and child are on the same roads. Can't pay the fine? Oh well, looks like your parents will.

Hmm...now may be a good time to become a defense lawyer specializing in traffic offenses.

The problem is that the law does not address people with bad driving records. Like I said earlier I'm in the insurance business and see driving records so bad and cannot believe they have a valid lic. An example of stuff I see on one persons lic within a three year period. 3speeding, 2 driving on suspended lic, 2 or 3 at fault accidents, and these people will still have valid lic. Thats what Va. should have addressed or at least hit people with these fines who are repeat offenders.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Well, I'm a good driver who has not had a ticket in 20 years I bet but I still see this as an unfair House Bill.

[Hog1]

BBQ served at all White House functions!!!!!!!!

Virginia has always been TOUGH on traffic laws

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Hog1

BBQ served at all White House functions!!!!!!!!

Virginia has always been TOUGH on traffic laws

How has Va. been tough on traffic laws except for this new law? I"ll vote for anyone who wants to reduce our goverment! Well, maybe not anyone but Hog1 has my vote. This question is your first question as you run for governor.

[Hog1]

Just an observation.
I grew up in the DC area. Going back to the seventies, VA outlawed the use of radar detectors. It was basically unheard of at the time

[JoeRedskin]

My problem with this law is the inability for it to be enforced in any consistent way. The discretion granted police is so wide as to when to enforce the law or levy the BIG fines that it becomes whimsical. Just reading through the list it seemed that the police can ding you for just about any minor infraction and turn it into a major expense. I'm all about law and order BUT I am also about fairness. The inherent inability for consistent application seems to me to be abhorent.

"Just obey the law and you'll be fine". Fair enough, but look through the list - cop's had a bad day, needs a big ticket to meet quota, stops you for
1) "bald tires";
2) cutting the corner in a grocery store lot (not cutting through, just shaving teh corner at the end of an aisle) or,
3) sin upon sin, you simply were so busy looking for your turn that it came on you with little or no time to signal and, instead of driving down the street signaling for a turn, making a legal U-turn and circling back so you can legally make the turn - you do a quick take and see nobody behind and make the quick right turn before you drive past it.

The cop cites you for BIG fines. As he is writing your ticket - three cars zip past driving recklessly and no fines ensue.

No, this does not excuse illegal acts BUT it does go to fairness and common sense. I have a problem with laws drafted for the main goal being the creation of revenue for the State and doing so in a manner that grants agents of the State to do so in an inconsistent manner and one that invites abuse.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Fine OUT of State folks worse would be better.
lol
Yankees get double!
hahahaha

[Daseal]

I'm with JoeRedskin 100%. I got treated like a second hand citizen one day because of an illegal U-Turn. We were forced out of the car, asked to search the car (to which we denied), and there were 8 cop cars that showed up with spotlights. My problem isn't the illegal U-turn I made, I'm fine with that. I made a mistake, didn't see the sign, but I did break the law. It's the fact that he had a bad day and because we were all low 20s figured we were doing something illegal. While we were sitting there, five cars made the exact same U-turn, yet that "has nothing to do with you."

Give cops LESS power, not more. Make the laws black and white, most of them aren't bright enough to make decisions.

My very favorite is the cops telling me as I was getting fingerprinted for underage possession of alcohol that had I not been caught with a black dude and a hispanic dude charges would have never been booked. Hurray for racism.

[SmootSmack]

I'll admit. I sort of have a weird fear of parking lots. One time I was T-Boned by someone cutting across a parking lot and smashing right into the side of my car. Another time someone swerved to avoid another car that was cutting across the parking lot and hit my parked car as I was walking back to it. Still another time, someone was cutting across the parking lot and hit my cousin (not my cousin's car, my actual cousin). Thankfully it wasn't serious.

As for using turn signals, it's a pet peeve of mine. But doesn't irk me quite as much as cutting across a parking lot

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll admit. I sort of have a weird fear of parking lots. One time I was T-Boned by someone cutting across a parking lot and smashing right into the side of my car. Another time someone swerved to avoid another car that was cutting across the parking lot and hit my parked car as I was walking back to it. Still another time, someone was cutting across the parking lot and hit my cousin (not my cousin's car, my actual cousin). Thankfully it wasn't serious.

I don't blame you, I'm not a big fan myself with the way people race through like it's the Indy 500. There's this guy I work with that absolutely flies through our parking lot, it's ridiculous.

When I worked at Progressive I used to see so many claims involving parking lot accidents, pedestrians getting hit in parking lots, etc. It's more common than I think people realize.

[Daseal]

Well, how will cutting across a parking lot be enforced? If in the way you make it out, I'm fine with it? Someone that clips a wide open spot? Pulling through to the open spot on the other end?

[dmek25]

whats the big deal with following the rules? there is nothing more that pisses me off, then changing lanes, pr turning, without signaling