Just plain ugly

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So far, not much different from a typical 2006 game

One big difference- they went vertical with the passing game far more often. While it didn't work out all the time, they were at least stretching the field more often.

[MTK]

I dunno, I was pretty happy with today. The offense wasn't pretty but I think they did some positive things against a tough D and they definitely ran the ball well.

I'll take an ugly win over a pretty loss any day.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

My 5 thoughts:

(1) I definately thought that the Fins were targeting Smoot.

(2) The offense's running game looked solid against a good D

(3) The offense's passing game was very inconsistent, but showed signs of promise. Hey, I didn't know a QB could throw deep.

(4) The defense looked great against the run and so-so against the pass. We really need some pressure up the middle.

(5) Santana Moss looked like the anti-Moss - missing 2-3 catches.

Overall, I'm happy with the result and see signs of hope, but will need 2-3 more weeks to give an accurate assessment of how this team will look towards the end of the season.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

OLINE AND DLINE looked good in the running game which I was a little concerned about. Portis and betts are a very strong one 2 punch.

The LBs played a great game but the back 4 not so well. I loved that we won. So lets build off some of the positives.

[jsarno]

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;349332]OLINE AND DLINE looked good in the running game which I was a little concerned about. Portis and betts are a very strong one 2 punch.

Umm, what? You were concerned about the only sure thing on our team? The running game was the only area we shouldn't have had some concern about.

The LBs played a great game but the back 4 not so well. I loved that we won. So lets build off some of the positives.

The LB's played great in run stopping, not so much in the pass defending.

[Paintrain]

0-1 is a lot uglier than 1-0..

The passing game was choppy, no question.. I think Campbell caught a little Brunell-itis and didn't go back over the middle as much after the pick.. Lloyd dogged it on the 2nd int, make a catch or prevent the pick but don't just half-jump and then jog after the DB..

Smoot and Rogers looked less than formidable out there but Green is a solid, smart QB so it's to be expected..

We dominated the line of scrimmage so that's a positive sign.

[diehardskin2982]

not all wins are going to be pretty but the overtime march with portis and betts was a thing of beauty.

[jbcjr14]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

not all wins are going to be pretty but the overtime march with portis and betts was a thing of beauty.

Yep, they definately could have ran that ball right down their throats. I was a little concerned that the 40yd fg was too long, but Suisham nailed it. All in all it was a big W and that's all that matters right now.

[Jamaican'Skin]

Im scared for every other D we face, because the running game (The one two punch of CP & LB) is a scary sight. Betts trucked Samuels today for goodness sake

[Daseal]

Dynamite Rave, It's not like Lloyd gave up on that ball. It would have been an amazing catch anyhow, and he gave his all to try to get it, but he just wasn't able to grab it. I really don't see how you can blame Lloyd on that one. He tried his best. IMO, Lloyd outplayed Moss today.

Randel El looked great, I'd love to see some more of that throughout the season. The ground game looked great, I loved how they juggled RBs (except that time Betts did all the work and Portis got put in right by the redzone. Let Betts finish that off!)

We need more on our passing game. It's a waste if we have to keep Cooley in to block, he's not a blocker. He's an offensive weapon. On another positive note, I saw Betts make 2 very nice blocks, something he was terrible at last year.

Defense looked great on run D. Pass D I'm not as worried as everyone else. I have a few questions, 1) Where are all those GWill blitzes I love to see? 2) Is it me or did 53, 21, and 30 seem to be more or less not near the ball all day? Maybe that was a gameplan, I have no clue. But I didn't see those three get much done.

It's very hard for a pass D to look good when Trent Green has all day to find an open receiver. We have some positive to look at, but we have a lot more negative to look at. It's going to be a very tough week in practice for these guys.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Dynamite Rave, It's not like Lloyd gave up on that ball. It would have been an amazing catch anyhow, and he gave his all to try to get it, but he just wasn't able to grab it. I really don't see how you can blame Lloyd on that one. He tried his best. IMO, Lloyd outplayed Moss today.

Randel El looked great, I'd love to see some more of that throughout the season. The ground game looked great, I loved how they juggled RBs (except that time Betts did all the work and Portis got put in right by the redzone. Let Betts finish that off!)

We need more on our passing game. It's a waste if we have to keep Cooley in to block, he's not a blocker. He's an offensive weapon. On another positive note, I saw Betts make 2 very nice blocks, something he was terrible at last year.

Defense looked great on run D. Pass D I'm not as worried as everyone else. I have a few questions, 1) Where are all those GWill blitzes I love to see? 2) Is it me or did 53, 21, and 30 seem to be more or less not near the ball all day? Maybe that was a gameplan, I have no clue. But I didn't see those three get much done.

It's very hard for a pass D to look good when Trent Green has all day to find an open receiver. We have some positive to look at, but we have a lot more negative to look at. It's going to be a very tough week in practice for these guys.

I agree with everything except what I put in bold.
Blocking is the key to winning, if we need our TE to block, then his ass needs to block. Had it not been for the drops, we would all be talking about this "high powered" offense...so what Saunders is doing is working.

ps- I said before that Cooley would have an off season offensively due to the fact that the Skins signed him too early, he has nothing to fight for now...when before he was fighting for a contract. I love the guy, don't get me wrong, but we aren't going to see Cooley as much as we have in the past.

[skinsguy]

It was a sloppy win, but a win nevertheless. I think Carlos Rogers continues to give up waaay too much cushion. The dolphins were definitely targeting Smoot, but I think Smoot's play will improve as the season goes along. He should've had that INT. At least we were in position to get a pick, unlike last season.

Randle El! What can I say? The guy played great today! That catch of the deflection from Thomas as awesome! Would've been great if he had made it into the end zone, but at least there is another wide receiver who can be a deep threat other than Moss now.

Speaking of Moss, I'm not sure what was up with him today, but those drops were unlike him. I will say, some of the passes Campbell threw should've been a little bit lower and a little bit taken off on them. Still, there were some dropped passes that if they were caught, could've been big for us!

Campbell started off bad but improved. He missed one sure TD pass to Moss, but over all, his deep passes are right on! I haven't seen anybody have as good of a deep pass from this team since Mark Rypien.

Oh, and there is no need for Clinton Portis to play preseason. We have exactly what we want at RB!

Overall, very sloppy, but we came out with a win. We didn't get those close wins last year. I think we have a good chance at going 2-0! The eagles looked pretty sloppy today as well.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

It was a sloppy win, but a win nevertheless. I think Carlos Rogers continues to give up waaay too much cushion. The dolphins were definitely targeting Smoot, but I think Smoot's play will improve as the season goes along. He should've had that INT. At least we were in position to get a pick, unlike last season.

Randle El! What can I say? The guy played great today! That catch of the deflection from Thomas as awesome! Would've been great if he had made it into the end zone, but at least there is another wide receiver who can be a deep threat other than Moss now.

Speaking of Moss, I'm not sure what was up with him today, but those drops were unlike him. I will say, some of the passes Campbell threw should've been a little bit lower and a little bit taken off on them. Still, there were some dropped passes that if they were caught, could've been big for us!

Campbell started off bad but improved. He missed one sure TD pass to Moss, but over all, his deep passes are right on! I haven't seen anybody have as good of a deep pass from this team since Mark Rypien.

Oh, and there is no need for Clinton Portis to play preseason. We have exactly what we want at RB!

Overall, very sloppy, but we came out with a win. We didn't get those close wins last year. I think we have a good chance at going 2-0! The eagles looked pretty sloppy today as well.

If you ask me Santana looked scared. Especially on the one where he jumped and it was just a little behind him but he was looking at the guy about to hit him instead of the ball.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Cowell

If you ask me Santana looked scared. Especially on the one where he jumped and it was just a little behind him but he was looking at the guy about to hit him instead of the ball.

Definitely an off day for him, but I look for Moss to make up for it next week.

Has anybody said anything about Andre Carter? They guy should have a good solid year this year.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Definitely an off day for him, but I look for Moss to make up for it next week.

Has anybody said anything about Andre Carter? They guy should have a good solid year this year.

Carter didn't look that good overall. Had only 2 pressures, 1 sack. He started off with a bang, then went back to mediocre.

I agree...Moss will be back next week. 100+ yard performance next week.