JLC Rant/Rip on Playcalling

[skinsguy]

I'm ready to stop worrying about why we lost this game. we lost it. Accept it and move on. At least we're 2-1. We could be 0-3 right now. We have some games coming up after the bye that could be very winnable games for us (no not counting the NE game.) Hopefully we will be healthy and refreshed and ready to go. It's a long season yet ahead of us. A lot of chances for us to make this a great season.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'm ready to stop worrying about why we lost this game. we lost it. Accept it and move on. At least we're 2-1. We could be 0-3 right now. We have some games coming up after the bye that could be very winnable games for us (no not counting the NE game.) Hopefully we will be healthy and refreshed and ready to go. It's a long season yet ahead of us. A lot of chances for us to make this a great season.

Why can't we beat NE? I mean, it's going to be very, very tough. But the consensus seemed to be we wouldn't lose to the Giants but we did. So why can't the opposite happen?

[dgack]

Here's a reason to be optomistic: after starting 2-0, if we play .500 ball the rest of the way, we finish 9-7, and that's been good enough to make the playoffs something like 63% of the time in the NFL since 1960.

Okay, we lost one against a pretty suspect team. We need to get one back, that's all.

[JWsleep]

Well put, dgack.

What's kinda funny here is that JLac is saying we DIDN'T run enough, while meanwhile all over the panicked redskin online nation, people are saying we we're TOO CONSERVATIVE on offense. Can't be both, can it?

Whatever. It's done. Let's learn from this and get better! What else can we do? Give up? Quit? Fire everybody? Trade for a magic player who will solve everything? We've tried all these in the recent past. They do not work.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Well put, dgack.

What's kinda funny here is that JLac is saying we DIDN'T run enough, while meanwhile all over the panicked redskin online nation, people are saying we we're TOO CONSERVATIVE on offense. Can't be both, can it?

I don't think its either, but we certainly didn't run too much. It's nothing short of flat out wrong to say we did. Running 8 times (one was an end around, another a scramble) in a half that started with a two touchdown lead is never too much regardless of the circumstances.

I don't necessarily agree with JLC either here, but his argument is much better than the dribble I've been reading on the Warpath the last 27 hours.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't necessarily agree with JLC either here, but his argument is much better than the dribble I've been reading on the Warpath the last 27 hours.

Try extremeskins--it's the end of the world over there. We are the "intelligent fans", after all!

[SmootSmack]

Interesting article from almost exactly a year ago

Redskins' Saunders Says Run Must Be Established - washingtonpost.com

And there's this

Redskins off and running - - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

Amazing. I was certain that Saunders wanted only to pass and Gibbs was holding him back by making him run the ball

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by WillH

As far as throwing the ball to try and "take the kill shot" being a bad decision, I would have to disagree. (I don't know if that was the point you were trying to make). I think that is something we have to learn to do as a team, we need to put opponents away. Do you remember those two pass plays in a row to Moss that were seemingly miscommunications? WTF was that? Could that have been due to Saunders trying things they don't know well enough yet? If so, things are not looking good for our O. We really need JC and our wr's to get on the same page, and if it took us looking pathetic this week to learn what we're doing wrong, so be it.

Yeah, my point was that I think that's what Saunders was trying to do; "go for the kill" in the long ball. He saw a weak secondary, and also saw promise in Jason Campbell and our WR's.

Saunders was confident in our offenses ability to dominate in the air, and felt so strongly that he never gave up on it. I can remember countless times that Jason would drop back, see coverage and than have to go underneath. And this, the Giants knew, is Jason's weakness.

Unlike Brunell, Jason Campbell has a very inaccurate short ball. He sort of guns it in there. So whereas Saunders was trying to use Jason's strengths, the Giants forced him to throw his weak ball. The mis-communications only made matters worse.

I'm beginning to think Jason Campbell doesn't feel 100% comfortable with this offense yet. He's got to be faster on those 2nd and 3rd reads, and when he delivers he has to do so accurately.

The Giants took the deep ball away for the most part, and forced an inexperienced quarterback to have to browse through his reads under pressure. In essence, Jason had to micromanage pocket movement, throw away possibility, deep routes, secondary routes, and hot routes in case of a blitz. On top of it all, he can't throw much to his big possession TE because he was held in to block a lot, and we don't quite have 6'6 possession receivers for those intermediate routes.

Giants out coached and outplayed us that second half. They deserved to win it.

[MTK]

I'm not buying the play calling excuse and in general I haven't been a big fan of always blaming that area after a loss.

When you have proper execution is the play calling even an issue?

If JC hit a few more throws would we even be disussing the play calling? If his throw to Sellers at the goal line was on point is the play calling a problem?

If Portis doesn't bobble the exchange is the play calling a problem?

If Betts doesn't trip are we talking about the play calling today?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not buying the play calling excuse and in general I haven't been a big fan of always blaming that area after a loss.

When you have proper execution is the play calling even an issue?

If JC hit a few more throws would we even be disussing the play calling? If his throw to Sellers at the goal line was on point is the play calling a problem?

If Portis doesn't bobble the exchange is the play calling a problem?

If Betts doesn't trip are we talking about the play calling today?

I am officially done talking about play calling. I've spent way to much time over analyzing it. Plain in simple, you don't execute, you don't win.