What's the defensive gameplan for NE?

GMScud · 10-22-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Just a reminder to those already writing us off: Remember who had the number one overall offense last year?

Remember what we did to them in THEIR house with a far less talented defense?

Yeah, that New Orleans game was a good showing. But remember the OTHER two road games we played against excellent offenses:
The Indy game when they put up 36 points, beat us by two touchdowns, and allowed Manning to have 342 yds passing.
The Rams game week 16 when they scored 37, Bulger had 388 yds and Steven Jackson had 150...

New Orleans is proving this year with same team as last year that they are more pretender than contender.

People may laugh at my low expectations for this weekends game, but as a Skins fan I've learned a valuable lesson: expectations are premeditated disappointments and resentments.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-22-2007, 05:16 PM

I don't think that anyone is totally expecting a win.

I'm simply pointing out that for those people who are expecting a LOSS to remember this game and to at least have some hope.

Regarding NO, you can't really compare this year to last year. They put up numbers all the way across the board through the whole season and this year they just don't have it.

JankySpanky80 · 10-22-2007, 07:47 PM

Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes.

GiantsSuck703 · 10-22-2007, 07:53 PM

Honestly this defense gives me hope no matter who is on the other side of the field, the sad thing is we will never get to see how good this defense truelly is because of the poor play of the offense. We match up better with them than most teams because of the talent level on our defense, Sean Taylor and Laron Landry are capable of completely taking away the deep ball, and thats what New England loves to do, let Brady throw those same deep balls he threw yesterday, its going to be picked off or someones going to get lit up by Taylor or Landry. Shawn Springs is more than capable of handling Moss and Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot will take care of Wes Welker and Donte Stallworth and Rocky Mcintosh can run with any TE in this league. London Fletcher can take away the run game all on his own, and Andre Carter is getting better and better with each game that goes by. The defense will never be the problem in this game and it will show until about the third quarter if the offense decides not to show up again. It really amazes me how much people dont realize the talent on this defense, the only thing that scares me against New England is the absolutely certainty that we will find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

SmootSmack · 10-22-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JankySpanky80

Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes.

I wouldn't want that. No need to play cheap. Aggressive but fair

Smooter · 10-22-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JankySpanky80

Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes.

lmao, yeah I wouldn't condone an act like that but hell get someone to pull a "Theismann" on his ass.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-22-2007, 08:42 PM

Defensive game plan...

Score as many points as we can.

RJ2kWJ · 10-22-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Defensive game plan...

Score as many points as we can.

Ugh... One can only hope!

JWsleep · 10-22-2007, 09:06 PM

It's a tough matchup, to say the least! One thing we've been pretty good at this year is taking away the big play. Make them drive the ball, don't let that deep one just deflate you--at least not too many times.

We must be able to stop the run and get some pressure with our down-4 linemen. We've done a nice job at this, but NE is a step above, and Brady does not get rattled and make mistakes. But at least we need to control the run. Big pressure again on Lodon Fletcher.

Here's what we'd like to do on offense to help out: keep Brady off the field with some ball control. Yes, NE can strike quick, but keeping the shots to a minimum is crucial. If we are to have any chance, IMO, we must establish the run and CP/LB must have breakout games. And we need to hit our first long bomb TD to a wideout. But ballcontroll will help our D, by limiting Brady's touches, and keeping them fresh for the late run game.

They're expecting a cakewalk--the betting line will probably be pretty brutal--plus, Indy is the next week. Maybe we'll get a little something from that, though they are so well coached it won't be much. But any little thing will help!

SUNRA · 10-22-2007, 09:48 PM

WE WILL WIN THIS GAME IF THREE PHASES OF THE GAME OCCUR:

1.The offensive playcalling has to be decisive and unpredictable which means Gibbs may step in on third down plays. If the playcalling is consistent, this will lead to longer drives and keep the Patriots offenses on the sidelines.

2.Send Prioleau and Landry on blitzes and play bump and run on Moss, Welker and Stallworth the way they did against the Lions. Who predicted that Roy Williams would have less than 50 yards in receptions and no TD's?

3.Stay focused and physical. We are the team that beat New England before they went on their 18 game winning streak and the team that made Randy Moss walk off the field out of frustration. If there's a will there's a way.

djnemo65 · 10-22-2007, 09:55 PM

I think that Dallas did a really good job blitzing New England....and still got torched. So I don't really think you can pressure Brady. Not with the way that offense is clicking, with the line protecting, the receivers getting open, and Brady feeling and reacting to pressure almost preternaturally.

I think we have to do what we have done all season. Play zone, don't give up the big play, and keep them out of the endzone. If we do that, and the offense does it's part as well, then we all bets should be off going into the fourth.

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2007, 02:54 AM

5 keys:

1. Use play action on offense. A lot.

2. Give a lot of looks on defense. Drop defensive linemen, zone overload blitz, press cover, etc. Just mix it up

3. Try to throw more earlier in drives. Our offense has been at its best when we stay out of 3rd downs altogether. Treat this game like Canadian Football.

4. If we get into a third and short, RUN THE FOOTBALL. Block for the runner while we are at it.

5. Do not blitz Brady often. Make him show patience. Exploit any weakness forced by a gametime scratch.

dgack · 10-23-2007, 07:13 AM

BTW, I've been saying this for 2 days but now seeing GTripp's score prediction I figure I better book mine. I, too, think we can and will win this game in a lower-scoring affair. I'm going Redskins 17, Patriots 14.

BigSKINBauer · 10-23-2007, 07:15 AM

Pats 31
Skins 17

This will change significantly throughout the week once i convince myself we are going to win.

chrisl4064 · 10-23-2007, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Just a reminder to those already writing us off: Remember who had the number one overall offense last year?

Remember what we did to them in THEIR house with a far less talented defense?

not sure if im following you on this one, do you mean the time we beat them and they went on to win the superbowl?

10-22-2007, 05:16 PM	#32
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? I don't think that anyone is totally expecting a win. I'm simply pointing out that for those people who are expecting a LOSS to remember this game and to at least have some hope. Regarding NO, you can't really compare this year to last year. They put up numbers all the way across the board through the whole season and this year they just don't have it. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-22-2007, 07:47 PM	#33
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes. __________________ JANK-e SPANK-e

10-22-2007, 07:53 PM	#34
GiantsSuck703 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 293	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? Honestly this defense gives me hope no matter who is on the other side of the field, the sad thing is we will never get to see how good this defense truelly is because of the poor play of the offense. We match up better with them than most teams because of the talent level on our defense, Sean Taylor and Laron Landry are capable of completely taking away the deep ball, and thats what New England loves to do, let Brady throw those same deep balls he threw yesterday, its going to be picked off or someones going to get lit up by Taylor or Landry. Shawn Springs is more than capable of handling Moss and Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot will take care of Wes Welker and Donte Stallworth and Rocky Mcintosh can run with any TE in this league. London Fletcher can take away the run game all on his own, and Andre Carter is getting better and better with each game that goes by. The defense will never be the problem in this game and it will show until about the third quarter if the offense decides not to show up again. It really amazes me how much people dont realize the talent on this defense, the only thing that scares me against New England is the absolutely certainty that we will find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

10-22-2007, 08:42 PM	#37
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,621	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? Defensive game plan... Score as many points as we can.

10-22-2007, 09:06 PM	#39
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? It's a tough matchup, to say the least! One thing we've been pretty good at this year is taking away the big play. Make them drive the ball, don't let that deep one just deflate you--at least not too many times. We must be able to stop the run and get some pressure with our down-4 linemen. We've done a nice job at this, but NE is a step above, and Brady does not get rattled and make mistakes. But at least we need to control the run. Big pressure again on Lodon Fletcher. Here's what we'd like to do on offense to help out: keep Brady off the field with some ball control. Yes, NE can strike quick, but keeping the shots to a minimum is crucial. If we are to have any chance, IMO, we must establish the run and CP/LB must have breakout games. And we need to hit our first long bomb TD to a wideout. But ballcontroll will help our D, by limiting Brady's touches, and keeping them fresh for the late run game. They're expecting a cakewalk--the betting line will probably be pretty brutal--plus, Indy is the next week. Maybe we'll get a little something from that, though they are so well coached it won't be much. But any little thing will help! __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-22-2007, 09:48 PM	#40
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? WE WILL WIN THIS GAME IF THREE PHASES OF THE GAME OCCUR: 1.The offensive playcalling has to be decisive and unpredictable which means Gibbs may step in on third down plays. If the playcalling is consistent, this will lead to longer drives and keep the Patriots offenses on the sidelines. 2.Send Prioleau and Landry on blitzes and play bump and run on Moss, Welker and Stallworth the way they did against the Lions. Who predicted that Roy Williams would have less than 50 yards in receptions and no TD's? 3.Stay focused and physical. We are the team that beat New England before they went on their 18 game winning streak and the team that made Randy Moss walk off the field out of frustration. If there's a will there's a way. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-22-2007, 09:55 PM	#41
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? I think that Dallas did a really good job blitzing New England....and still got torched. So I don't really think you can pressure Brady. Not with the way that offense is clicking, with the line protecting, the receivers getting open, and Brady feeling and reacting to pressure almost preternaturally. I think we have to do what we have done all season. Play zone, don't give up the big play, and keep them out of the endzone. If we do that, and the offense does it's part as well, then we all bets should be off going into the fourth.

10-23-2007, 02:54 AM	#42
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? 5 keys: 1. Use play action on offense. A lot. 2. Give a lot of looks on defense. Drop defensive linemen, zone overload blitz, press cover, etc. Just mix it up 3. Try to throw more earlier in drives. Our offense has been at its best when we stay out of 3rd downs altogether. Treat this game like Canadian Football. 4. If we get into a third and short, RUN THE FOOTBALL. Block for the runner while we are at it. 5. Do not blitz Brady often. Make him show patience. Exploit any weakness forced by a gametime scratch. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-23-2007, 07:13 AM	#43
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? BTW, I've been saying this for 2 days but now seeing GTripp's score prediction I figure I better book mine. I, too, think we can and will win this game in a lower-scoring affair. I'm going Redskins 17, Patriots 14. __________________ "To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

10-23-2007, 07:15 AM	#44
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: What's the defensive gameplan for NE? Pats 31 Skins 17 This will change significantly throughout the week once i convince myself we are going to win.

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