Brady's going to take a cheap one someday

[BleedBurgundy]

Neither is right, running up the score nor intentionally injuring a player. But there is such a thing as reap what you sow.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Neither is right, running up the score nor intentionally injuring a player. But there is such a thing as reap what you sow.

There's a big difference. Running up the score is not against the rules. Intentionally injuring a player is.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by firstdown

There's a big difference. Running up the score is not against the rules. Intentionally injuring a player is.

Yeah, but there are many acts that are against the rules, that is why teams get flagged. A late hit is a foul that will cost the Colts 15 yards. Supposedly it is a good while after the ball was delivered, now that would be interesting. It might not only be a penalty but a fine as well.

Sean Taylor and CP got fined for wearing a different socks than allowed (I think). Hitting Brady would make a lot more sense to me. That is why I was surprised not to see a late hit in the Skins-Pats game. Some might say the Redskins won't do it because it shows no class, well, what the Pats did showed no class either.

Bob Sanders made it easier for the NFL to fine him, and maybe a suspension if he hits Brady late.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

Yeah, but there are many acts that are against the rules, that is why teams get flagged. A late hit is a foul that will cost the Colts 15 yards. Supposedly it is a good while after the ball was delivered, now that would be interesting. It might not only be a penalty but a fine as well.

Sean Taylor and CP got fined for wearing a different socks than allowed (I think). Hitting Brady would make a lot more sense to me. That is why I was surprised not to see a late hit in the Skins-Pats game. Some might say the Redskins won't do it because it shows no class, well, what the Pats did showed no class either.

Bob Sanders made it easier for the NFL to fine him, and maybe a suspension if he hits Brady late.

Well if people lived there lives by saying he showed no class then I won't show no class then we would live in one screwed up world.

[BleedBurgundy]

I'm talking about "right" in terms of sportsmanship, not the rule book. Still, you do raise a valid point. My post was not meant to advocate anyone taking a shot on #12.

[rickmmrr]

BB must be ragging his players before every game. "They think we only win because we cheat." Him and his players are out to prove otherwise.

I'm just glad that if they do go all the way this year the footnote will be.
"Patriots win superbowl the same year they were caught cheating"

[redsk1]

One of the supporting arguments for the "its not running up the score" viewpoint, is hey in baseball do you stop hitting when its 12-1. Well in baseball you don't stop hitting but if you steal a base or tag up for a close play at the plate, you are going to get plunked the next time when you come up to bat. So yes baseball is self-policing.

This is not to say that someone should take a cheapshot on Brady, b/c they shouldn't imo. However i wouldn't be suprised to see a "late hit" on Brady sometime soon.

[SmootSmack]

Real justice would be if the Patriots do it to themselves. Something like one of the lineman falling backwards on Brady's ankle

[Daseal]

SGG, they're out there playing football. That's on a much different level than trying to intentionally hurt a player. Do I care about the other teams mental well being? Hell no. I want their spirit broken going into half time. I want that team to lay down and die every game. And to be completely honest, I'd be MORE embarrassed if another team put their backups in. To me that's more of a slap in the face than anything. If in the 3rd quarter another team is tossing in backups, that's saying you guys are so bad we don't even need our starters in there.

If you want to get to brady and hit him, fine. I was for that too. However, wishing for injury is really about the most classless thing you can do. If I had my way, every roster would have every player on their roster stay healthy. Not only would it make NFL competition better, my fantasy teams wouldn't blow this year!

[skinsfan69]

I'm curious to know if anyone here has ever played football at the HS or college level. If you have then I would bet that most had no problem with what went down last Sun. Most of the former players I have heard on TV/radio are killing the Redskins. Some have taken the other side like Steve Young. But the majority have all said play better and I would bet that most former and current players would have a huge problem with a teammate or opponent trying to take someone out on purpose cause the score was out of hand. Get mad and do something about.

If Ohio State schedules a D2 school and they are winning 63-0 in the 4th q then you call off the dogs. In that situation you have a serious mismatch in physical talent. In the NFL ( IMO) it's fair game because you are getting a check to play. You are paid to play and you are paid to get yourself prepared to play and that's a huge huge difference. If you can't cover a Pats defensive player who comes in to play offense and he runs the same play everytime he comes in the game then you are not prepared to play IMO.

The thought of going after someone's knee or trying to take someone out on purpose just cause you are getting killed is absurd. I'm almost shocked that Cowher even said something like that. But lets say it does happen. I would bet that Goddell would come down real real hard on someone and that is why it probably won't happen. When game checks are involved and you have a hard ass commish then guys are going to think twice. Look at what he did do Haysworth on Tenn (sp) last year.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm curious to know if anyone here has ever played football at the HS or college level. If you have then I would bet that most had no problem with what went down last Sun. Most of the former players I have heard on TV/radio are killing the Redskins. Some have taken the other side like Steve Young. But the majority have all said play better and I would bet that most former and current players would have a huge problem with a teammate or opponent trying to take someone out on purpose cause the score was out of hand. Get mad and do something about.

If Ohio State schedules a D2 school and they are winning 63-0 in the 4th q then you call off the dogs. In that situation you have a serious mismatch in physical talent. In the NFL ( IMO) it's fair game because you are getting a check to play. You are paid to play and you are paid to get yourself prepared to play and that's a huge huge difference. If you can't cover a Pats defensive player who comes in to play offense and he runs the same play everytime he comes in the game then you are not prepared to play IMO.

The thought of going after someone's knee or trying to take someone out on purpose just cause you are getting killed is absurd. I'm almost shocked that Cowher even said something like that. But lets say it does happen. I would bet that Goddell would come down real real hard on someone and that is why it probably won't happen. When game checks are involved and you have a hard ass commish then guys are going to think twice. Look at what he did do Haysworth on Tenn (sp) last year.

I played through high school and cannot ever remember trying to keep the score down. We wanted to score on every position.

[redsk1]

There is something called sportsmanship. You know that thing that parents teach their kids when you first start playing sports. I don't care if you are a professional and get paid billions of dollars to do what you do. Does that change your personal ethics? It shouldn't. I'm not saying the other team shouldn't try to execute their plays but there is a difference b/n that and going for it on 4th down to try to score a touchdown. Where has all of the sportsmanship gone? Does it not exist if you are getting paid to play? Explain that to your kids.

There is a thing called winning w/ class.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by redsk1

There is something called sportsmanship. You know that thing that parents teach their kids when you first start playing sports. I don't care if you are a professional and get paid billions of dollars to do what you do. Does that change your personal ethics? It shouldn't. I'm not saying the other team shouldn't try to execute their plays but there is a difference b/n that and going for it on 4th down to try to score a touchdown. Where has all of the sportsmanship gone? Does it not exist if you are getting paid to play? Explain that to your kids.

There is a thing called winning w/ class.

They won with class I did not see them take any cheap shots, taunt us when they scored or any of that. Before the game players greeted each other and after the game they shook hands and parted ways.

[MTK]

I guess it depends on what kind of coach you had. In high school we always pulled starters and eased up if a game was out of hand.

Personally I'm just tired of talking about it. There are strong opinions on either side. I don't think there's a definitive right or wrong answer here. It all depends on your personal view of sportsmanship.

[BDBohnzie]

It seems to me this is going to escalate back into another "Classless Belicheck" thread...