Campbell's Shortcoming

[Staind]

Campbell crumbles under pressure.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Staind

Campbell crumbles under pressure.

If you mean to say that Jason has a tendency to fumble when hit, you are correct. If you are saying that Jason can't handle psychological pressure you could not be more wrong.

[Staind]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If you mean to say that Jason has a tendency to fumble when hit, you are correct. If you are saying that Jason can't handle psychological pressure you could not be more wrong.

I have seen Campbell several times make a huge mistake come fourth quarter in tight games. The longer he's on the feild the worse he gets.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Staind

Campbell crumbles under pressure.

that couldn't possibly be further from the truth. Go back and look at the Eagles game, 2nd week. the dallas game, giants game. the kid is very composed under pressure. I have no idea who you are watching. Composure is never the issue with him. accuracy maybe, composure, no way

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Jason Campbell's had a lot of good games for us, and makes a lot of great throws. But I think this highlights the fact that we're still talking about a young QB who needs time to develop.

I took NFL QB stats, and added together INTs and Fumbles Lost. Campbell leads the NFL in fumbles lost at the QB position. This combined total, essentially amounting to turnovers, was then calculated on a per-game basis.

Here's where Campbell ranks:

Name ,Team, TO PG
Trent Dilfer ,SFO, 2.17
Brian Griese ,CHI, 1.83
Eli Manning ,NYG, 1.75
Damon Huard ,KAN, 1.6
Jason Campbell ,WAS, 1.58
Drew Brees ,NOR, 1.5
Jon Kitna ,DET, 1.5
Philip Rivers ,SDG, 1.5
Vince Young ,TEN, 1.45
Rex Grossman ,CHI, 1.43
Kurt Warner ,ARI, 1.4
Tony Romo ,DAL, 1.33
Carson Palmer ,CIN, 1.33
Marc Bulger ,STL, 1.33
Derek Anderson ,CLE, 1.25
Jay Cutler ,DEN, 1.25
Peyton Manning ,IND, 1.17
Ben Roethlisberger ,PIT, 1.17
Daunte Culpepper ,OAK, 1.14
Kellen Clemens ,NYJ, 1.14
Matt Schaub ,HOU, 1.09
Brett Favre ,GNB, 1.08
Matt Hasselbeck ,SEA, 1.08
Donovan McNabb ,PHI, 1
Chad Pennington ,NYJ, 1
J.P. Losman ,BUF, 1
Kyle Boller ,BAL, 0.9
Tom Brady ,NWE, 0.67
Joey Harrington ,ATL, 0.67
Jeff Garcia ,TAM, 0.45
David Garrard ,JAC, 0.33

Fumbles lost, at least with QBs, is an indicator of line play as much as the QB play. But one of my frustrations with Campbell is that he should be feeling the rush and doing a better job of securing the ball when someone's bearing down on him. That's definitely the part of his game that needs the most improvement.

I think he'll improve over time and be a good one for sure, but this is just kind of a reality check to anyone who thinks JC is our savior today or even next season.

I don't alot of attention to this. He needs to do better holding on to the ball. But some of the fumbles are not his fault. He also leads all QB's in rushing. Bottom line is he needs to get better just like everyone else on the team. I think he will.

[Lady Brave]

I just keep thinking about the inordinate amount of pressure on this kid. He has no true #1 receiver to look to. A patchwork offensive line. The running game has been less than stellar. We've had back to back games where his interceptions were a huge factor. The weight of knowing that the fanbase has placed all their hopes on him as our long awaited and heralded franchise QB. To top it off, he has to try and deal with the death of a teammate and lead this team to a respectable finish.

This kid needs to have a big finish in a game soon. He could use a serious boost of confidence right now.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

I just keep thinking about the inordinate amount of pressure on this kid. He has no true #1 receiver to look to. A patchwork offensive line. The running game has been less than stellar. We've had back to back games where his interceptions were a huge factor. The weight of knowing that the fanbase has placed all their hopes on him as our long awaited and heralded franchise QB. To top it off, he has to try and deal with the death of a teammate and lead this team to a respectable finish.

This kid needs to have a big finish in a game soon. He could use a serious boost of confidence right now.

Good points. Campbell seems to start hot, and then fizzle as the game wears on.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Good points. Campbell seems to start hot, and then fizzle as the game wears on.

I wonder how much of that is Jason and how much of that is the lack of good halftime adjustments? It's no secret Gibbs V2.0 has struggled worse than any other team in the league during that span, and Campbell has only started 18 of those games.

The turnovers per game stat wouldn't even be close to that number if he didn't fumble when hit. It's not like he throws awful, Grossman-esque picks on a regular basis. He just simply has to work on feeling pressure and tucking the ball away. A few of the fumbles he held it the ball too long, and a few were just busted O-line assignments. He hasn't fumbled yet when he's chosen to scramble and knows a hit is coming. If he was even just a little better at feeling pressure that stat wouldn't be so skewed. And the O-line could play a little better too. It'll be interesting to see if the fumbles continue at the same pace now that we're getting Randy back...

[That Guy]

all i can say is, thanks eli.

out of the 13 QBs that have started every game this year, eli is by far the worst in a whole bunch of categories, which is good, cause campbell is 12th in most of them :/ .

[cpayne5]

Good blog entry by JLC on the matter...
Patience With The Passer - Redskins Insider

[JWsleep]

Beat me to it, Payne. More good stuff from JLC--the man is on a roll.

This strikes me as a moot argument right now--we're locked into JC for the next few seasons at least--we're not going after another QB, even if the negative comments are correct, which I doubt--with all the other needs we have.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Beat me to it, Payne. More good stuff from JLC--the man is on a roll.

This strikes me as a moot argument right now--we're locked into JC for the next few seasons at least--we're not going after another QB, even if the negative comments are correct, which I doubt--with all the other needs we have.

I can only speak for myself and can't speak on the comments others have made, but to criticize Campbell is certainly not why I started the thread.

The point of this thread was to point out that Campbell is exhibiting behaviors typical of young QBs - not totally careful with the ball. It was also to say that Campbell will get a lot better as he learns to control this.

Mainly though, my point was nobody should get too down on the young fella because that's what he is, young. He's making the mistakes you expect to see a young QB make - and we shouldn't expect too much of him so soon. He'll only get better, and hopefully he improves and doesn't go the way of Patrick Ramsey.

[memphisskin]

I know that we come in here to vent, but in a season full of disappointments I thought Campbell was one of the few bright spots. Every young qb has growing pains, did we really expect Campbell to be Tom Brady this year? Does JC need to learn to tuck the ball away, yes. But the line also needs to do its job, they don't get a free pass in this. Yes, Campbell has a lot to learn, but he's learning and wasn't that what this year was about? I hear all the talk about his peers, but his peers don't play for us, JC does. And I see growth, I don't see his turnvoers as him developing any bad habits, I see a guy who is trying to do what he can to win games. And that, like everything else, is something that you learn to do. Plus, its not like he's getting much help, so for him to continue to keep plugging away shows the guts of a champion.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

I know that we come in here to vent, but in a season full of disappointments I thought Campbell was one of the few bright spots. Every young qb has growing pains, did we really expect Campbell to be Tom Brady this year? Does JC need to learn to tuck the ball away, yes. But the line also needs to do its job, they don't get a free pass in this. Yes, Campbell has a lot to learn, but he's learning and wasn't that what this year was about? I hear all the talk about his peers, but his peers don't play for us, JC does. And I see growth, I don't see his turnvoers as him developing any bad habits, I see a guy who is trying to do what he can to win games. And that, like everything else, is something that you learn to do. Plus, its not like he's getting much help, so for him to continue to keep plugging away shows the guts of a champion.

Good post, I think some people really need to learn the value of patience. When it comes to a first year starter, JC has done a great job and has really come a long way. When I hear comparisons to Romo I just cringe. Two totally different players and circumstances.

[saden1]

The honeymoon for JC will be over after this season. If he performs like he has this season next season I'm afraid it will be time to look at other options. Don't get me wrong, I have faith in him but he really needs to start winning games or else we'll have a Grossman on our hands.