Grand jury identifies Rivera as gunman in death of Taylor

[munny]

Would you give up free speech to save one life?

Would you give up the right to vote to save one life?

I wouldn't, nor would I give up my second amendment rights.

Also, I might add that Taylor might also likely be alive had he simply installed an alarm system. When he returned to Miami the previous week, he could have had one put in that day. That might have been deterrent alone to keep these punks from trying it. A shame we will never know.

[dmek25]

Keyshawn Johnson had a great analogy on TV Sunday. said he went back to his hometown after his first season as a pro. was hell bent on raising his kids there. they all went into the barbershop where he had been getting his hair cut his whole life. while in the chair someone put a gun to his head, and robbed the whole shop. he knew right then and there he had to change his life style, and his choice of friends. and munny, i would give up any of my individual rights if it meant a more safe community, and country , in which i lived in

[dgack]

Originally Posted by HOGTIMUS PRIME

It's to bad Taylor didn't have a gun under his bed rather than a machete, there's a good chance he would be alive today.

Criminals will always find a weopon, the innocent need to be able to defend, and protect themselves, as well as their families from this kind of vermin.

Well hold on here, the reason Sean did not have a gun is because it was against the terms of his plea deal in the earlier weapons case against him.

You could very easily make the argument that had he not misused a weapon at that time, that he would have had access to a weapon at the time he needed it most, for it what it was designed for.

As always, this is not to say Sean had it coming or any of that nonsense, it just goes to show you the cycle of not respecting firearms and what havoc they can wreak. Casually brandishing a weapon is something that's far too prevalent in our society and it isn't always hardcore criminals engaged in it. Sometimes it's decent people who made the mistake of reaching for a gun rather than using their brain (or even just their fists).

[Cowell]

Sadly, IF Sean had had a gun and shot those men he probably would have gotten into some sort of trouble even with out the earlier plea deal. That's the cold hard truth of this world we live, even if the person is a criminal and they invade your home, somehow shooting them makes you a criminal too.

As for the guy with the gun who shot Sean. In all honesty if you opened a door to see a 6'2 200+ pound guy standing there with a machete I think you would panic a bit, especially if you expected no one to be home. Obviously the man was startled because the first shot missed and the 2nd hit a place where if I had a gun I wouldn't shoot someone. I would aim for the chest or head if I was going to take the plunge. I really think that the kid didn't mean to shoot or kill Sean he was just scared. For the record I am still not defending these criminals they all deserve a good time in jail.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I think those are the important words in that post. You're right, if you don't have the responsibility to handle a weapon responsibly and the intelligence to keep it away from children, do not own a gun. Period.

For that matter, irresponsible people/children shouldn't be playing with a lot of things: guns, ovens, matches, gasoline, cars, ATVs, motorcycles, knives and probably a thousand other things.

No one is advocating that every breathing moron go arm himself to the teeth, and no one is saying we should add loaded handguns to a child's toybox.

I, for one, was taught from a very young age the four basic rules of firearm safety and they've stuck with me ever since.

Of course I also grew up in a stable household with rational parents...go figure.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Cowell

Sadly, IF Sean had had a gun and shot those men he probably would have gotten into some sort of trouble even with out the earlier plea deal. That's the cold hard truth of this world we live, even if the person is a criminal and they invade your home, somehow shooting them makes you a criminal too.

Would the trouble he'd be in be worse than being dead?

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by dmek25

more guns equal more killing. its simple math. the second amendment rights will be settled in early 2008 by the supreme court. its something that was needed back in the early days. not so much anymore. i wonder how many gun owners would give up their guns, if it meant saving just one life? i would give up some of my personal enjoyments, if i could save someone from dying

Having a gun has saved MY life. Not having a gun I'd be dead. Plain and simple.

You can look at "is it worth saving a life" from both sides of the coin.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Would the trouble he'd be in be worse than being dead?

Uh NO!

I wish he had a gun that night. If Sean had been able to fire a few shot's into the floor when he heard the noises I bet those pussies would have run away and Sean would be alive.
As the old saying goes you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

[Riggo44]

I wish he had installed a better security system and bought 3 or 4 Rottweiler’s to live in the yard.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

I wish he had installed a better security system and bought 3 or 4 Rottweiler’s to live in the yard.

Well he used to have 4 pitbulls that he got rid of after the whole Vick fiasco because he didn't want people giving him a hard time about it

[WaldSkins]

chris sameuls just bought a gun for himself as protection in wake of the sean taylor investigation. Just saw it on Rome Is Burning

[redskinsfanatic]

owning a gun is a right in america.i can't understand why somebody that made the type of money that ST did and had a baby and a mate to protect chose to not pay a few grand for a home security system?we can all look back on the what ifs here,but none of that is gonna bring back sean taylor.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well he used to have 4 pitbulls that he got rid of after the whole Vick fiasco because he didn't want people giving him a hard time about it

I didn't know that what a shame. Just another reason to not to like Vick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redskinsfanatic

owning a gun is a right in america.i can't understand why somebody that made the type of money that ST did and had a baby and a mate to protect chose to not pay a few grand for a home security system?we can all look back on the what ifs here,but none of that is gonna bring back sean taylor.

He did have one, but I think it wasn't activated that night. I wanna say so his mom and sister could get in and out no problem

[rypper11]

The death penalty can be asked for in cases where a murder is commited during the course of a felony (ie breaking and entering, grand larceny, rape, etc). Therefore, the blights on humanity that were 18 or over could and should be executed.
The number of liberal pacifists who are against the death penalty always shrinks when someone they know and love is hurt.
It pisses me off even further that these bigoted assholes (Wilbon, Cowturd, etc) that blasted Sean for having a weapon the last time he faced dirt trying to take what was his now say it's his fault for dying. If the state of Florida hadn't told Sean that he couldn't carry a weapon to defend himself they wouldn't have to house these punks now.