Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts

saden1 · 01-10-2008, 01:29 PM

John "10,000 Years In Iraq" McCain?

mheisig · 01-10-2008, 01:48 PM

Just related to politics in general, the NY Times is really raising the bar in terms of media delivery for the elections this year.

One of their cooler apps is Naming Names. Mouse over a name and you'll see the frequency of how many candidates reference the selected candidate. They're all pretty much equal until you mouse over Clinton, and there's a firestorm of comments from EVERYone about her. Kind of makes you think everyone is concerned about her if everyone's talking that much. She's certainly Target #1 for both sides.

Also nice is the Election Guide which summarizes each candidates stance on various issues.

Also cool but maybe not as useful is the Candidate Schedule Tracker which charts visits to various spots in the country.

It's cool to finally see some useful tools on the web and watching the sites really push the technology. I wish the company I worked for were a little more cutting edge like the NY Times...oh well.

70Chip · 01-10-2008, 02:07 PM

I saw Hillary's crying moment the other day, and I am pretty sure she was method-acting. It makes me cringe to think about what sort of sick, perverted stuff she has to envision in her mind's eye to bring those tears forward. And the media all seem to have bought it. I thought they would have figured these people out by now.

RobH4413 · 01-10-2008, 02:26 PM

Yeah... it was completely an act... but so is all of politics (at least presidential).

Say what you want, but... it looks like it worked. She won didn't she?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-10-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Yeah... it was completely an act... but so is all of politics (at least presidential).

Say what you want, but... it looks like it worked. She won didn't she?

Polls revealed that she got the biggest bounce post-crying among older women. Whatever happened to hanging tough with the big boys?

70Chip · 01-10-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Polls revealed that she got the biggest bounce post-crying among older women. Whatever happened to hanging tough with the big boys?

She breaks just like a little girl...

GhettoDogAllStars · 01-10-2008, 05:00 PM

The Federal government is WAY too big, and incredibly inefficient. They do a better job at wasting money than they do at anything else. Ron Paul realizes this.

To begin fixing America's problems, we first need to fix our budget.

12thMan · 01-10-2008, 05:05 PM

He's not the ONLY one who realizes this, but he's definitely one of the most vocal.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-10-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

The Federal government is WAY too big, and incredibly inefficient. They do a better job at wasting money than they do at anything else. Ron Paul realizes this.

To begin fixing America's problems, we first need to fix our budget.

Besides platitudes (e.g., "the government is too big" and "I don't like the war") what does he stand for? Many of his ideas look interesting at first glance, but, upon closer examination, they are actually quite nuts.

DynamiteRave · 01-10-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Besides platitudes (e.g., "the government is too big" and "I don't like the war") what does he stand for? Many of his ideas look interesting at first glance, but, upon closer examination, they are actually quite nuts.

He was on CNN denouncing this newsletter excerpt. Desperate times calls for desperate measures?

GhettoDogAllStars · 01-10-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Besides platitudes (e.g., "the government is too big" and "I don't like the war") what does he stand for? Many of his ideas look interesting at first glance, but, upon closer examination, they are actually quite nuts.

He stands for the constitution.

I believe the federal government is in need of some serious overhauling -- maybe even a revolution. He's the only candidate in my eyes who's not afraid of drastic change -- the kind of change we need.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-10-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

He stands for the constitution.

I believe the federal government is in need of some serious overhauling -- maybe even a revolution. He's the only candidate in my eyes who's not afraid of drastic change -- the kind of change we need.

What does "he stands for the Constitution" mean? I've heard him talk in platitudes that appeal to the masses, but he rarely talks about what his general philosophy will mean in terms of concrete change.

He has all but come out and explicitly said he'd like to get rid of all federal agencies except for the DoD and DoJ. So there goes the CIA and Department of Homeland Security. Does that mean that all intelligence activities taking place outside of the DoD cease to exist? Even though the CIA and DHS have serious flaws, he basically wants to throw out the baby with the bathwater. He wants to get rid of the IRS. That's nice, I hate paying taxes too, but I shudder to think what will happen to our economy when huge sectors of the workforce (e.g., tax preparers and tax attorneys) hit the unemployment line. He would get rid of the FAA. That's nice, I personally don't care if airline safety is totally unregulated. He would get rid of the SEC. That's also nice, who cares if corporations can solicit investments without adequate disclosure and thereby defraud investors.

Simple phrases like, "our government is too big," "taxes suck," "the war is bad," might resonate with a lot of people. I don't like big government, I don't like taxes, and I don't like war. But serious matters call for serious talk, not pscyho babble that reduces complex problems to one-liners.

12thMan · 01-10-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

What does "he stands for the Constitution" mean? I've heard him talk in platitudes that appeal to the masses, but he rarely talks about what his general philosophy will mean in terms of concrete change.

He has all but come out and explicitly said he'd like to get rid of all federal agencies except for the DoD and DoJ. So there goes the CIA and Department of Homeland Security. Does that mean that all intelligence activities taking place outside of the DoD cease to exist? Even though the CIA and DHS have serious flaws, he basically wants to throw out the baby with the bathwater. He wants to get rid of the IRS. That's nice, I hate paying taxes too, but I shudder to think what will happen to our economy when huge sectors of the workforce (e.g., tax preparers and tax attorneys) hit the unemployment line. He would get rid of the FAA. That's nice, I personally don't care if airline safety is totally unregulated. He would get rid of the SEC. That's also nice, who cares if corporations can solicit investments without adequate disclosure and thereby defraud investors.

Simple phrases like, "our government is too big," "taxes suck," "the war is bad," might resonate with a lot of people. I don't like big government, I don't like taxes, and I don't like war. But serious matters call for serious talk, not pscyho babble that reduces complex problems to one-liners.

Damn, I don't think Tim Russert could have said it any better than you did!

saden1 · 01-10-2008, 08:32 PM

12thMan · 01-10-2008, 08:46 PM

Damn, I take back what I said. Sorry Sherriff, after watching Tim Russert make a fool out of Ron Paul, I think he (Russert) should keep his job.

01-10-2008, 01:29 PM	#31
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts John "10,000 Years In Iraq" McCain? __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

01-10-2008, 01:48 PM	#32
mheisig The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Southeast Age: 41 Posts: 2,119	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts Just related to politics in general, the NY Times is really raising the bar in terms of media delivery for the elections this year. One of their cooler apps is Naming Names. Mouse over a name and you'll see the frequency of how many candidates reference the selected candidate. They're all pretty much equal until you mouse over Clinton, and there's a firestorm of comments from EVERYone about her. Kind of makes you think everyone is concerned about her if everyone's talking that much. She's certainly Target #1 for both sides. Also nice is the Election Guide which summarizes each candidates stance on various issues. Also cool but maybe not as useful is the Candidate Schedule Tracker which charts visits to various spots in the country. It's cool to finally see some useful tools on the web and watching the sites really push the technology. I wish the company I worked for were a little more cutting edge like the NY Times...oh well. __________________ Your post count, reputation score, popularity ranking, VIP tag or funny signature has no bearing on how I value you as an individual.

01-10-2008, 02:07 PM	#33
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts I saw Hillary's crying moment the other day, and I am pretty sure she was method-acting. It makes me cringe to think about what sort of sick, perverted stuff she has to envision in her mind's eye to bring those tears forward. And the media all seem to have bought it. I thought they would have figured these people out by now. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-10-2008, 02:26 PM	#34
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts Yeah... it was completely an act... but so is all of politics (at least presidential). Say what you want, but... it looks like it worked. She won didn't she? __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

01-10-2008, 05:00 PM	#37
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 42 Posts: 2,762	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts The Federal government is WAY too big, and incredibly inefficient. They do a better job at wasting money than they do at anything else. Ron Paul realizes this. To begin fixing America's problems, we first need to fix our budget. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

01-10-2008, 05:05 PM	#38
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts He's not the ONLY one who realizes this, but he's definitely one of the most vocal.

01-10-2008, 08:32 PM	#44
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

01-10-2008, 08:46 PM	#45
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts Damn, I take back what I said. Sorry Sherriff, after watching Tim Russert make a fool out of Ron Paul, I think he (Russert) should keep his job.

Interesting Ron Paul Newsletter Excerpts

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