Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement

hagams · 04-17-2008, 01:14 PM

Wow....I hadn't noticed that he's been playing that long. Man, getting old sucks.

skinsfan69 · 04-17-2008, 01:49 PM

This doesn't surprise me. With Balt. probably looking to draft a QB, plus keep Boller and Smith, he probably would've got cut if he didn't retire. It was painful watching him play last year. His body just broke down on him. He had a good career but not HOF career.

SmootSmack · 04-17-2008, 02:06 PM

Very strong career, but not a HOFer. Smart move retiring now, especially if Ogden retires as well.

Monkeydad · 04-17-2008, 03:24 PM

He'll get in after Randall Cunningham does.

rypper11 · 04-17-2008, 04:18 PM

Not a HOFer, but a great QB and a great guy. He was a lot of fun to watch. I think he gets a bum rap for not having better numbers, but really, did he ever have a wr? Mason is good, not great. Wycheck and Bennett were good, but not field stretchers. He always played on strong running teams (Eddie George, McGahee) though his career QB rating doesn't show it.

Dirtbag59 · 04-17-2008, 05:05 PM

Please trade up Ravens. Take Ryan Clady with that first pick and Brian Brohm with the 21st pick. I sware though if a team decides to trade up with the Redskins it's because of the combination of being in a spot that will allow x team to select whatever 2nd teir QB they want as well as being offered a discout in that the cost will only be an early 2nd and 3rd round pick. Of course I don't know the difference in money between 21 and 26 but I can imagine that it's only a couple of million dollars.

Skinny Tee · 04-17-2008, 10:27 PM

NFL Therom of Deduction:

If a team just got one player worse then my team just got one player better.

Better for McNair anyway...he's going to be one of those guys who can't get out of bed in the morning. He's so banged up with back issues it doesn't bode well for his longterm health.

GusFrerotte · 04-17-2008, 10:55 PM

Steve Mcnair was one of the better Qb's the past two decades. He helped make the Titans a decent team when he was with them. He should have retired after last season though. Injuries were a problem and the team(Ravens) is horrid now.

Stuck in TX · 04-18-2008, 10:23 AM

There is only one, maybe two (Pat Ramsey) QB's who I have ever seen take a hit like McNair, and that is Terry Bradshaw. The only difference was that Bradshaw got back up and got hit again play after play and still managed to win a few SBs. McNair's problem was the getting back up part. Oh, and Ramsey just lacks the knowledge of football altogether.

jsarno · 04-18-2008, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

There is only one, maybe two (Pat Ramsey) QB's who I have ever seen take a hit like McNair, and that is Terry Bradshaw. The only difference was that Bradshaw got back up and got hit again play after play and still managed to win a few SBs. McNair's problem was the getting back up part. Oh, and Ramsey just lacks the knowledge of football altogether.

And ability.

Stuck in TX · 04-18-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsarno

And ability.

Heart and and a big arm just doesnt do the trick anymore

skinsfan_nn · 04-20-2008, 10:10 PM

PFT.com source of article.

MCNAIR NOT A HALL OF FAMER
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2008, 8:45 p.m.

We already know that one recently retired quarterback from Mississippi, Brett Favre, will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2013. But what about the other recently retired quarterback from Mississippi, Steve McNair?

Three Hall of Fame voters were asked their opinions by ESPN.com, and all three said no.

“I think Steve was a real good QB but has no chance for the Hall,” one voter said.

Another voter said of McNair, “He’s borderline at best.” The third also plans to vote no but added, “I can’t say that I would never vote for McNair.’

To get into the Hall of Fame, a candidate needs to receive 80 percent of the vote. As Art Monk discovered this year, voters do sometimes change their minds, but all indications are that a lot of minds would have to change for McNair to get in.

djnemo65 · 04-20-2008, 11:08 PM

If you had asked me last year if McNair was a future Hall of Famer I would have probably said yes, but looking at his numbers it is tough to make a case for him. He's a guy whose perception around the league was greater than his numbers dictated, mostly because he was so tough, professional, and cool under pressure. Still one of my all time favorite guys though and if he ever did get in I wouldn't be mad at all. He was a few inches away from executing the greatest drive in Superbowl history.

Stuck in TX · 04-20-2008, 11:10 PM

he would have been an excellent horseshoes player... you know, where almost counts.

KLHJ2 · 04-22-2008, 07:24 AM

This discussion right here is exactly why it is imperative for a player to go out on top of his game. Unless you were the absolute best at your position (Jerry Rice) then people are only going to remember the last two years. Both Mark Brunell and Steve McNair were highly thought of before their poor play in their later years changed many minds. It is arguable that they were great in their prime. Now they aren't even shadows of their former selves.

Another disappointing thing is that everybody wants to talk about stats keeping them out. I thought that we had learned that stats do not solely make you a Hall of Famer. Apparently, we have learned nothing from the whole Art Monk struggle. McNair is the best QB in Oilers/Titans history (Look it up). Yes, I am aware of Moon and that is my point. Moon is in, but McNair might not ever be.

http://http://www.pro-football-refer...St00.htm?redir

http://http://www.pro-football-refer...M/MoonWa00.htm

I am refering more to the numbers for Houston/ Tenessee. Years are similar, yardage is similar, and TD's Favor Moon. It is compelling however to see that the passer rating, and TD/INT percentage are solely in McNair's favor.

04-17-2008, 01:14 PM	#1
hagams Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Beaufort SC Age: 46 Posts: 933	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement Wow....I hadn't noticed that he's been playing that long. Man, getting old sucks. __________________ We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!

04-17-2008, 01:49 PM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement This doesn't surprise me. With Balt. probably looking to draft a QB, plus keep Boller and Smith, he probably would've got cut if he didn't retire. It was painful watching him play last year. His body just broke down on him. He had a good career but not HOF career.

04-17-2008, 02:06 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement Very strong career, but not a HOFer. Smart move retiring now, especially if Ogden retires as well. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-17-2008, 03:24 PM	#4
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 47 Posts: 17,460	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement He'll get in after Randall Cunningham does.

04-17-2008, 04:18 PM	#5
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement Not a HOFer, but a great QB and a great guy. He was a lot of fun to watch. I think he gets a bum rap for not having better numbers, but really, did he ever have a wr? Mason is good, not great. Wycheck and Bennett were good, but not field stretchers. He always played on strong running teams (Eddie George, McGahee) though his career QB rating doesn't show it. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

04-17-2008, 05:05 PM	#6
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement Please trade up Ravens. Take Ryan Clady with that first pick and Brian Brohm with the 21st pick. I sware though if a team decides to trade up with the Redskins it's because of the combination of being in a spot that will allow x team to select whatever 2nd teir QB they want as well as being offered a discout in that the cost will only be an early 2nd and 3rd round pick. Of course I don't know the difference in money between 21 and 26 but I can imagine that it's only a couple of million dollars. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

04-17-2008, 10:27 PM	#7
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement NFL Therom of Deduction: If a team just got one player worse then my team just got one player better. Better for McNair anyway...he's going to be one of those guys who can't get out of bed in the morning. He's so banged up with back issues it doesn't bode well for his longterm health. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

04-17-2008, 10:55 PM	#8
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement Steve Mcnair was one of the better Qb's the past two decades. He helped make the Titans a decent team when he was with them. He should have retired after last season though. Injuries were a problem and the team(Ravens) is horrid now.

04-18-2008, 10:23 AM	#9
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 40 Posts: 545	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement There is only one, maybe two (Pat Ramsey) QB's who I have ever seen take a hit like McNair, and that is Terry Bradshaw. The only difference was that Bradshaw got back up and got hit again play after play and still managed to win a few SBs. McNair's problem was the getting back up part. Oh, and Ramsey just lacks the knowledge of football altogether. __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

04-20-2008, 10:10 PM	#12
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 61 Posts: 4,495	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement PFT.com source of article. MCNAIR NOT A HALL OF FAMER Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2008, 8:45 p.m. We already know that one recently retired quarterback from Mississippi, Brett Favre, will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2013. But what about the other recently retired quarterback from Mississippi, Steve McNair? Three Hall of Fame voters were asked their opinions by ESPN.com, and all three said no. “I think Steve was a real good QB but has no chance for the Hall,” one voter said. Another voter said of McNair, “He’s borderline at best.” The third also plans to vote no but added, “I can’t say that I would never vote for McNair.’ To get into the Hall of Fame, a candidate needs to receive 80 percent of the vote. As Art Monk discovered this year, voters do sometimes change their minds, but all indications are that a lot of minds would have to change for McNair to get in. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

04-20-2008, 11:08 PM	#13
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement If you had asked me last year if McNair was a future Hall of Famer I would have probably said yes, but looking at his numbers it is tough to make a case for him. He's a guy whose perception around the league was greater than his numbers dictated, mostly because he was so tough, professional, and cool under pressure. Still one of my all time favorite guys though and if he ever did get in I wouldn't be mad at all. He was a few inches away from executing the greatest drive in Superbowl history.

04-20-2008, 11:10 PM	#14
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 40 Posts: 545	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement he would have been an excellent horseshoes player... you know, where almost counts. __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

04-22-2008, 07:24 AM	#15
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 48 Posts: 5,829	Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement This discussion right here is exactly why it is imperative for a player to go out on top of his game. Unless you were the absolute best at your position (Jerry Rice) then people are only going to remember the last two years. Both Mark Brunell and Steve McNair were highly thought of before their poor play in their later years changed many minds. It is arguable that they were great in their prime. Now they aren't even shadows of their former selves. Another disappointing thing is that everybody wants to talk about stats keeping them out. I thought that we had learned that stats do not solely make you a Hall of Famer. Apparently, we have learned nothing from the whole Art Monk struggle. McNair is the best QB in Oilers/Titans history (Look it up). Yes, I am aware of Moon and that is my point. Moon is in, but McNair might not ever be. http://http://www.pro-football-refer...St00.htm?redir http://http://www.pro-football-refer...M/MoonWa00.htm I am refering more to the numbers for Houston/ Tenessee. Years are similar, yardage is similar, and TD's Favor Moon. It is compelling however to see that the passer rating, and TD/INT percentage are solely in McNair's favor.

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