Stuart Schweigert a Redskin

[skinsnut]

I dont know about this guy specifically...but I aint suprised that they brought in a safety with NFL experience..it is very likely he will be our 2nd or 3 safety at worst.
And that...my friends, said a lot about our thin experience at safety.

Now all we need is depth with a starting quality OLB and I think we'll be good to start the season.
I wouldn't mind a starting quality DT too.

[skinsnut]

Anybody know contract terms?
or at least duration?

[vallin21]

Scheweigert will be at FS. Landry at SS

Bet on it

RIP ST 21

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Scheweigert will be at FS. Landry at SS

Bet on it

RIP ST 21

I am exstatic that we signed this guy, but he will not start. Landry played pro bowl football at FS. Doughty played very smart solid football. Doughty was never out of position, and played great. Moving Landry back to SS will be taking a step backward. If Landry or Doughty gets hurt, then we move Landry to SS or let Schweigert play FS, along with Doughty. Thats how I see it.

[vallin21]

Personally I think Schweigert is a huge upgrade over Doughty.

This definetly replaces/ or gives competition for Doughty at SS or FS

[Dirtbag59]

Man, no love for Doughty at all? What did he do wrong last year? I don't mind Stuart being a Redskin, but to me the thought that Doughty's going to just be upended by Schweigert is baffaling.

I hate being put into a corner like this, as I felt the same way when Mix mania was at it's peak and I had to argue against Mix making an impact, despite the fact I kind of liked him, I just didn't like him THAT much.

I do feel that Reed is going to be a starter this year and he's going to do just what he did last year, and thats play solid, mistake free, hard nosed football. Personally I liked Landry a lot better at FS anyway, as I saw it as the more ground Landry gets to cover the more plays he'll get in on, but thats up to the coaching staff. Plus if you look at Landry's highlight tapes, most of the highlights seemed to come when he played FS, of course the problem with that argument is he had more NFL experience when he was moved to FS then when he played at SS (follow?).

Anyway I feel that after training camp the Reed-Landry combo will be used more then the Schwiegert-Landry combo though both will probably be used throughout the year especially if matchups dictate that we have a huge advantage playing Landry at SS for a particular game, but I still think that we're going to see more Landry at FS and Reed playing SS.

Actually you know what? Fuck it. Schwiegert starts at FS, Doughty starts at SS. Landry can come off the bench in Nickle situations.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Man, no love for Doughty at all? What did he do wrong last year? I don't mind Stuart being a Redskin, but to me the thought that Doughty's going to just be upended by Schweigert is baffaling.

I hate being put into a corner like this, as I felt the same way when Mix mania was at it's peak and I had to argue against Mix making an impact, despite the fact I kind of liked him, I just didn't like him THAT much.

I do feel that Reed is going to be a starter this year and he's going to do just what he did last year, and thats play solid, mistake free, hard nosed football. Personally I liked Landry a lot better at FS anyway, as I saw it as the more ground Landry gets to cover the more plays he'll get in on, but thats up to the coaching staff. Plus if you look at Landry's highlight tapes, most of the highlights seemed to come when he played FS, of course the problem with that argument is he had more NFL experience when he was moved to FS then when he played at SS (follow?).

Anyway I feel that after training camp the Reed-Landry combo will be used more then the Schwiegert-Landry combo though both will probably be used throughout the year especially if matchups dictate that we have a huge advantage playing Landry at SS for a particular game, but I still think that we're going to see more Landry at FS and Reed playing SS.

Actually you know what? Fuck it. Schwiegert starts at FS, Doughty starts at SS. Landry can come off the bench in Nickle situations.

I still think Doughty is going to start. He's going to have to improve to keep his spot though, and after all, that is the idea here.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Man, no love for Doughty at all? What did he do wrong last year? I don't mind Stuart being a Redskin, but to me the thought that Doughty's going to just be upended by Schweigert is baffaling.

I hate being put into a corner like this, as I felt the same way when Mix mania was at it's peak and I had to argue against Mix making an impact, despite the fact I kind of liked him, I just didn't like him THAT much.

I do feel that Reed is going to be a starter this year and he's going to do just what he did last year, and thats play solid, mistake free, hard nosed football. Personally I liked Landry a lot better at FS anyway, as I saw it as the more ground Landry gets to cover the more plays he'll get in on, but thats up to the coaching staff. Plus if you look at Landry's highlight tapes, most of the highlights seemed to come when he played FS, of course the problem with that argument is he had more NFL experience when he was moved to FS then when he played at SS (follow?).

Anyway I feel that after training camp the Reed-Landry combo will be used more then the Schwiegert-Landry combo though both will probably be used throughout the year especially if matchups dictate that we have a huge advantage playing Landry at SS for a particular game, but I still think that we're going to see more Landry at FS and Reed playing SS.

Actually you know what? Fuck it. Schwiegert starts at FS, Doughty starts at SS. Landry can come off the bench in Nickle situations.

Well darn dirtbag, tell us how you really fell. I hate seeing you backed in a corner like that and all.

But arigato for the commentary......

[saden1]

He seems cool...he's gonna fit in real nice with Cooley and Portis...hopefully he can play.

[Defensewins]

LaRon Landry is our FS. He is not getting moved to SS.
All of our other safeties including Schweigert are not good enough to be our FS and allow Landry to move over to SS. Landry's natural position is FS anyway, why move him?
From what I read it would be a good career move for Schweigert to move to SS which better suits his strengths (tackling) and protects him from his perceived weakness (coverage). I keep hearing he did not play well at the FS postion just like Reed Doughty two yeas ago. So they are both very similar.
I would not be surprised to see the redskins pick up another Safety off waivers when final cuts happen later this summer. A decent safety may become available after final cuts.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

LaRon Landry is our FS. He is not getting moved to SS.

My untrained eyes lead me to believe that Laron is best suited to play FS. However, I distinctly recall the coaching staff saying this offseason that they'd like to move him back to SS. I don't know if that is still the case.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

My untrained eyes lead me to believe that Laron is best suited to play FS. However, I distinctly recall the coaching staff saying this offseason that they'd like to move him back to SS. I don't know if that is still the case.

We do not have anyone on the roster that can play the FS as well as LaRon.
A few years ago in preseason Reed Doughty was tried at starting FS but failed. Doughty also played FS in regualr season when ST was injured and he also burned.
But when they started Doughty at SS after Talyor's death Doughty was adequate. That tells you how much more difficult the FS position is to master in the NFL and how much more responsibility that position requires than the SS position.
Why then would move our best safety to SS and start a lesser player at a more important position? That would be like moving Portis to FB.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

We do not have anyone on the roster that can play the FS as well as LaRon.
A few years ago in preseason Reed Doughty was tried at starting FS but failed. Doughty also played FS in regualr season when ST was injured and he also burned.
But when they started Doughty at SS after Talyor's death Doughty was adequate. That tells you how much more difficult the FS position is to master in the NFL and how much more responsibility that position requires than the SS position.
Why then would move our best safety to SS and start a lesser player at a more important position? That would be like moving Portis to FB.

You're putting the FS position on a pedastool. It does not matter if Landry is playing SS or FS, he's still going to be a difference maker, and Landry himself said that he doesn't have a preference on what position he plays. The point is to upgrade you're safety tandem, you want your two best safeties on the field at the same time. If Schweigert is a better safety than Doughty, than we need to have Landry at SS and Schweigert at FS. If Doughty is better than Schweigert, than Landry needs to be at FS and Doughty at SS, it's as simple as that. That's the beauty about having Landry, he's versatile enough to play either position and still be a difference maker, so the coaching staff has the flexibility to be able to put the two best safeties on the field, no matter what the combination is. One more thing I wanted to put out there, don't forget about Moore and Horton. I think that they could be major players in the competition for one of the safety spots.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

We do not have anyone on the roster that can play the FS as well as LaRon.
A few years ago in preseason Reed Doughty was tried at starting FS but failed. Doughty also played FS in regualr season when ST was injured and he also burned.
But when they started Doughty at SS after Talyor's death Doughty was adequate. That tells you how much more difficult the FS position is to master in the NFL and how much more responsibility that position requires than the SS position.
Why then would move our best safety to SS and start a lesser player at a more important position? That would be like moving Portis to FB.

The question for the coaches isn't who is the best player at free safety. IMO, the question is this ... is FS X + SS Landy > FS Landry + SS X. I don't know if we know the answer to that question. I like Doughty, but I'm not 100% convinced that he is a better SS than a guy like Schweigert is at FS. Nor am I 100% certain that Laron is better at SS than FS.

[saden1]

I would rather have Landry as free safety. The way he played filling in for ST was unbelievable. Those two picks in the playoffs against the Seattle were spectacular and I hope to god he plays FS.