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Old 09-01-2008, 06:26 PM   #1
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Re: Opening Day draft grade?

For what it's worth, this is how some other noteworthy Rookie Recievers performed during the preseason.

James Hardy - 3 Rec 46 Yds 1 TD
Jordy Nelson - 5 Rec 48 Yds
Donnie Avery - 6 Rec 72 Yds
Jerome Simpson - 11 Rec 157 Yds
Andre Caldwell - 3 Rec 22 Yds
Mario Manningham - 8 Rec 82 Yds
Eddie Royal - 4 Rec 80 Yds
Desean Jackson - 16 Rec 189 Yds
Limas Sweed - 8 Rec 60 Yds
Dexter Jackson - 3 Rec 28 Yds
Devin Thomas - 2 Rec 7 Yds

Last years rookies during 2007 Preseason
Calvin Johnson 6 Rec 79 yds
Dwayne Jarrett 4 Rec 77 yds
Craig Davis - 5 Rec 68 Yds
Sidney Rice - 8 Rec 53 yds
Ted Ginn Jr - 4 Rec 38 yds
Dwayne Bowe - 1 Rec 21 yds

My point is while it helps it still only means so much. For God's sake Dwayne Bowe had 1 reception for 21 yards and ended up leading all rookies in recieving yards last year. Ted Ginn Jr. didn't do anything special while this year he's starting to look a lot better with experience under his belt (plus a new QB that's perfect for his skillset). Anthony Gonzalez didn't even show up through 10 pages of stats nor did Steve Smith (Giants 2nd Round pick last year).

Honestly I'm a little nervous about Thomas's performance but we knew we were getting a project when we drafted him. Give him time. On top of that Thomas missed two preseason games and missed a lot of time in camp. Given a chance to learn the system he has the chance to be the guy we envisioned him being upon drafting him, but for now stay away from the panic button.
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:40 PM   #2
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For what it's worth, this is how some other noteworthy Rookie Recievers performed during the preseason.

James Hardy - 3 Rec 46 Yds 1 TD
Jordy Nelson - 5 Rec 48 Yds
Donnie Avery - 6 Rec 72 Yds
Jerome Simpson - 11 Rec 157 Yds
Andre Caldwell - 3 Rec 22 Yds
Mario Manningham - 8 Rec 82 Yds
Eddie Royal - 4 Rec 80 Yds
Desean Jackson - 16 Rec 189 Yds
Limas Sweed - 8 Rec 60 Yds
Dexter Jackson - 3 Rec 28 Yds
Devin Thomas - 2 Rec 7 Yds

Last years rookies during 2007 Preseason
Calvin Johnson 6 Rec 79 yds
Dwayne Jarrett 4 Rec 77 yds
Craig Davis - 5 Rec 68 Yds
Sidney Rice - 8 Rec 53 yds
Ted Ginn Jr - 4 Rec 38 yds
Dwayne Bowe - 1 Rec 21 yds

My point is while it helps it still only means so much. For God's sake Dwayne Bowe had 1 reception for 21 yards and ended up leading all rookies in recieving yards last year. Ted Ginn Jr. didn't do anything special while this year he's starting to look a lot better with experience under his belt (plus a new QB that's perfect for his skillset). Anthony Gonzalez didn't even show up through 10 pages of stats nor did Steve Smith (Giants 2nd Round pick last year).

Honestly I'm a little nervous about Thomas's performance but we knew we were getting a project when we drafted him. Give him time. On top of that Thomas missed two preseason games and missed a lot of time in camp. Given a chance to learn the system he has the chance to be the guy we envisioned him being upon drafting him, but for now stay away from the panic button.
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #3
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Re: Opening Day draft grade?

I would generalize this overall draft as just average at best: C

But clearly to me the first day moves are questionable, 2 WR's and a TE in the second round. WR's are always a gamble making the transition to the NFL. As we have seen with both Thomas and Kelly and many others that have come and gone in this league. With that said I think/hope in the long run both these kids can be productive, maybe we can get a little something out of at least one of the two this year?

I do like the Rinehart, Brennan & Davis draft picks, I think these where all smart moves.

I'll take a wait and see approach with all picks, except one. Tryon should have been cut.
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:36 PM   #4
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You know what? im prepared to give the redskins a "B" for this draft.
Brooks WILL be good, that is just a matter of time. The man can boot it he was drafted for a reason.I firmly believe that under Zorns tutiledge we may have the quaterback of the future in Colt. Lets be honest...every coach wants that prject qb, and colt is perfect for zorn and has shown much promise in college and in preseason. Fred davis look slike a keeper and i expect yoders job security to be questioned when davis gets his blocking down a bit better, but still for all the negative things people said about his blocking skills when drafted he didnt nearly look as bad at the task as i had expected.
Im willing to tryon and malcolm kelly a free pass for now. Based on the fact that dbs take a little while to develop and kelly while having phenomonal hands cant get on the field.
Devin thomas i think gets the lowest grade in the draft...although he could get rid of his jitters and hopefully emerge he definitely will have a trial by fire if moss or randle el cannot stay healthy.
Moore and horton..i love these guys, horton is awesome and i look for him to take over the spot when doughty fails. Moore is solid and i think will emerge to be a steady backup on this team.
Jsckson, i was weary of this guy at first, but he impressed with his speed. For the value at the pick..ill take him
and rhinehart...i love this guy i think he will be a longtime starter for the redskins when he cracks the roster...versatile, nasty and tough. Madden loves him too.
Over all...(depending on the big three)
I think the draft was a glaring success...EVERYONE made the team, we added youth..and it cost us naught. for the next frew years if these players develop it allows us to free that cap space
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:53 AM   #5
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Opening Day Grade? C. Davis will be a solid pro but has to prove himself with limited playing time right off the bat. He will do just that. Rinehart is best suited as a G and looks good there. Moore and Horton are promising special teamers and backups. Jackson was a good depth pick and a backup plan for drafting Calais Campbell in the 2nd (oh, we didn't draft Campbell you say?). Brooks should pan out and Brennan feels like a future winning-QB. Tryon right now, looks lost but, should get better with more practice and coaching. Did our scouts know the extent of Kelly's injuries? It looks like there's only one rookie WR who's really playing like they were worthy of a first round grade and I think that under the circumstances of having a new offense and a roster without much depth at WR, that drafting Thomas and Kelly (+Davis) wasn't a terrible idea. We lost Philip Daniels after the draft right? Doesn't drafting Brooks seems to be a wasted pick now that four year veteran punter/holder Frost stepped it up just recently? Who knew? You just got to go with the team you're delt...
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:21 AM   #6
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Opening Day Grade? C. Davis will be a solid pro but has to prove himself with limited playing time right off the bat. He will do just that. Rinehart is best suited as a G and looks good there. Moore and Horton are promising special teamers and backups. Jackson was a good depth pick and a backup plan for drafting Calais Campbell in the 2nd (oh, we didn't draft Campbell you say?). Brooks should pan out and Brennan feels like a future winning-QB. Tryon right now, looks lost but, should get better with more practice and coaching. Did our scouts know the extent of Kelly's injuries? It looks like there's only one rookie WR who's really playing like they were worthy of a first round grade and I think that under the circumstances of having a new offense and a roster without much depth at WR, that drafting Thomas and Kelly (+Davis) wasn't a terrible idea. We lost Philip Daniels after the draft right? Doesn't drafting Brooks seems to be a wasted pick now that four year veteran punter/holder Frost stepped it up just recently? Who knew? You just got to go with the team you're delt...
frost was punting better, but still hitting line drives and giving up big returns.

C.Davis = F.Davis i assume, and i like him as an instant offensive boost too.
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:26 AM   #7
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jackson does have two sacks... 1st one came at indy, which doesn't show up on nfl.com without clicking on the game log link (only shows 3 most recent games on the snapshot profile)

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Old 09-02-2008, 12:26 PM   #8
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Please grade the Redskins- Zorn, Snyder, Cerrato and their draft choices as a whole at present. Skins kept them all, how many will actively contribute and at what price?
Likely contributors this season include:
  • Durant Brooks
  • Fred Davis
Possible Contributors:
  • Malcolm Kelly (if he ever gets healthy)
  • Devin Thomas (if he learns how to run a 6 yard route on 3rd and 5)
  • Chad Rinehart (solid depth if OL has injuries)
  • Rookie safeties (mostly on special teams)
Rob Jackson probably won't get PT, but could help on special teams. If Colt Brennan is called on this year, that would be very bad, indicating some calamity at the QB position. How Tryon is still on this team is beyond me.
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