Early Cut List

[That Guy]

thats down to 73 at worst case, then you can cut 2-3 more LBs (we have 11, probably will keep 6-7 at most), 1-2 O-linemen (though they might keep EVERYONE seeing how things have gone), kimrin, stempke, hamdan, mcollough, 2 TEs, and THEN it gets hard... (hamdan and the kickers can all PS i believe though)

that gets you to roughly 61-64 players...

[SUNRA]

Why hasn't Hamdan gotten any snaps? What's up with that? We send him to Europe and he doesn't play well to make a preseason? Oh well.

[That Guy]

oops, miscounted, its 92 on the roster, -1 for iffy, -1 for jansen = 90... so 70 at worst case above, and it gets you roughly to 58-61 players...

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by That Guy

http://www.redskins.com/team/default.jsp?sortBy=title
i should mention this is somewhat outdated (iffy is still on it), but its 95 players (including iffy and jansen), so its within 3...

if i had to guess randomly from who i've seen them bother to play:
48 Stephens, Leonard TE
13 Standeford, John WR
16 Williams, Jafar WR
12 Brewer, Jonathan WR
14 Douglas, Dameane WR
15 Dillard, Sean WR
84 Cloman, Scott WR
83 Russell, Cliff WR
39 Clark, Ryan S
48 Strother, Billy LB
55 Mitchell, Kevin LB
92 Heuer, Norman DT
78 Killings, Cedric DT
73 Boschetti, Ryan DT
90 White, Greg DE
72 Clemons, Nic DE
71 Evans, Demetric DE
23 Jimoh, Ade DB
38 Wilds, Garnell CB
22 Brown, Ralph CB
63 Ferrario, Bill C (though they might keep him for a 3rd C anyways)
and probably Pita or Terrell at T

that's 21-22 right there without offending anyone

Where's Kozlowski and Cooley in the mix? We should at least seen them as blockers. In fact were Rasby, Royal, Baxter? Hmmm, I think Gibbs is keeping the lid on the TEs'.

[That Guy]

they got 7 TEs right now (including mike sellers, who's listed as a FB)... guess 2-3 end up off the roster... leonard stephens, and probably 2 between robert royal, fred baxter, and mike sellers (judging from what i've seen only)...

[CRT3]

Everybody keeps worry about the cap hit for dead money. I got news here that in 2 - 3 years expect alot of dead money. In some cases it might be better to let a vetran go who will cost us cap space in the next 2 years to get ready for the annual Snyder Spring fest of signing big contracts. Expect some big names to go this year. Some possibles could be Morton, Jacobs, Bowen, and Walt Harris. I think Lavar is safe.

[That Guy]

no way they let morton or jacobs go, those guys aren't that expensive to begin with...

cut: Kevin Mitchell and wide receiver Cliff Russell

Other players cut Sunday by Washington: Defensive linemen Nic Clemons, Greg White and Norman Heuer; linebacker Billy Strother; defensive backs Ryan Clark and Michael Hall; wide receivers Justin Standeford and Scott Cloman.

[That Guy]

dang, i missed micheal hall... make that 57-60 total then that'd be for final roster, PS would be composed of 8 guys that'd be cut from the final headcount.

3 D-line (of 15)
2 LB (of 11)
2 CB (of 9)
3 WR (of 13)

[GoSkins!]

As if there isn't enough competion at H-Back, they were running Trash out of the backfield a lot in the first quarter. I don't think Gibbs isn't happy with the H-Backs (Cooley,Kozlowski...) but I do think that he wanted to work on something without totally tipping his hat to Tampa. Thrash will be here but in a more physical role than the typical wideout. If Ade is still around tomorrow I will have to think that he has some dirt on Snyder... He should be on the first bus out of town. How 'bout Betts? Anyone still think he has a shot?

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by That Guy

no way they let morton or jacobs go, those guys aren't that expensive to begin with...

cut: Kevin Mitchell and wide receiver Cliff Russell

I see Morton getting traded along with Bowen. Morton hasn't done well to get us good yardage on returns at all.

[That Guy]

welcome to the board and yeah, betts seems to have a legit shot, he'll definately make this cut, there's about 12 people ahead of him (at least) for a ride on the next bus out of town, and only 4 spaces to go around.

[That Guy]

i hope you're kidding on morton, he's a good returner (he did run one back last year). he does fair catch an awful lot... but before him we were using champ, who has NO hands...

besides returns, he's also cheap depth at WR and RB.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

As if there isn't enough competion at H-Back, they were running Trash out of the backfield a lot in the first quarter. I don't think Gibbs isn't happy with the H-Backs (Cooley,Kozlowski...) but I do think that he wanted to work on something without totally tipping his hat to Tampa. Thrash will be here but in a more physical role than the typical wideout. If Ade is still around tomorrow I will have to think that he has some dirt on Snyder... He should be on the first bus out of town. How 'bout Betts? Anyone still think he has a shot?

Yes. Only to be traded later. Betts and Gardner were offered for Ogunleye. So there's a plan to get him out of here for somebody.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i hope you're kidding on morton, he's a good returner (he did run one back last year). he does fair catch an awful lot... but before him we were using champ, who has NO hands...

besides returns, he's also cheap depth at WR and RB.

Thrash will be handling a lot of returns. I don't know Morton's stats but he's not averaging 12 yards a return.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i hope you're kidding on morton, he's a good returner (he did run one back last year). he does fair catch an awful lot... but before him we were using champ, who has NO hands...

besides returns, he's also cheap depth at WR and RB.

I agree. Morton needs to stay. He is an all around player and with the help of some better special teams play he could have a big year. But Bowen????????