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Old 09-22-2008, 11:21 PM   #1
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

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By rule, neither play was PI. Torrence was in perfect position (for a change) and has every right to go for the ball. Look at Fletcher's play at the end in slow motion, the Cardinal tripped over his own feet.
As for the Cards delay of game, there is no way to tell. I don't know of an angle that shows the snap that has a playclock in it too. I do believe that most of the D stopped while the official was running in before the ball was snapped so the play wouldn't have gone for a TD anyway.
I've seen the play about 20 times in all kinds of mos and he didn't trip over his own feet. Fletch hit him first then he fell, which looks like a trip.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:43 AM   #2
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

That crew was awful on Sunday. I really thought they were poor. How many OPIs get called a year? Like 10? And Thomas gets flagged for 2? I know they ok calls but OPIs have to be pretty egregious. I just thought they were bad. Way too many flags.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:46 AM   #3
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

I guess Fletcher could have been called but honestly who cares. If you go over any game with a fine tooth comb you'll find dozens of non calls and plenty of blown calls every Sunday.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:50 AM   #4
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Torrences play was completely legal and hella coverage. I'm not sure if it was the same play or nor, but once yesterday there was a pass toward the flats that was tipped at the line and one of our LBs flattened the back before the ball got there, which is legal. I can't watch the vid on my BB. We were batting balls like crazy too. Hella batting. Hella cool.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:18 AM   #5
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

To me it looked like Torrence was playing the ball so it was a good non-call.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:42 AM   #6
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Well if you looking at the rules does this mea that the Hyer (spelling) penalty should have benn assessed on the following kick off.
NFL Rules Digest: Penalty Enforced on Following Kickoff
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:02 PM   #7
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

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Well if you looking at the rules does this mea that the Hyer (spelling) penalty should have benn assessed on the following kick off.
NFL Rules Digest: Penalty Enforced on Following Kickoff
Thanks, that seems pretty clear!
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:54 PM   #8
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

How about the horseshit call on the D. Thomas touchdown, Or the pi that got them downfield for a score. I don't get this question. Is it like are we cheaters? should we have lost?
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:23 PM   #9
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

I just went back and looked at it, it was a good call in my opinion, and im not just being biased. You can make contact with a receiver within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, he didnt hit him more so went to cover the quick flat and simply ran into him.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:41 PM   #10
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

Honestly, that was a call that could have gone either way. I guess that makes us lucky in a sense but you will always be up and down on PI calls. We'll get our share of bad ones this year. For the most severe penalty in football, it is a shame that PI is so subjectively and so inconsistently called. Personally, I would prefer a 15 yard penalty like in college over a spot foul but that is a topic for another thread I suppose.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:10 PM   #11
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

I'm watching Inside the NFL right now, and Jacksonville's game winning drive against Indy on Sunday was kept alive for an illegal contact penalty on a Colts LB against a Jax receiver inside 5 yards that was pretty damn similar to what London did.

Looking at that, I'd say we got lucky.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:20 AM   #12
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Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

^^^ yeah after my post i got to thinking "are you allowed contact within 5 yards after the ball is thrown" (answer is no) but GM scud i am pretty sure an illegal contact penalty (by nature = contact before ball is thrown or else it would be PI) has to be past 5 yards from the line of scrimage. i follow the rules pretty closely but this year it has been hard to figure out whats been called and why because of the lack of consistency.

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