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Old 10-12-2008, 10:28 AM   #1
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Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:

Rubbing people the wrong way is a two-way street but the truth is I'm not trying to rub anyone anyway. I speak my mind is all.

On a side note, I visited my mom and dad yesterday and they had this new picture in their living room of them with congressman Tom Davis. He was our representative when we live in NOVA and I met him couple of times. He was a decent guy, a principled man, someone you could respect. You know what else? He's someone who I agree with with respect to the Republican Party and a host of other issues. My current congressman is David Reichert, a worthless piece of shit yes-man by all accounts. Hopefully he's going to get the boot this year.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:33 PM   #2
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Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:

You forgot one, Saden:

George W. Bush

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Old 10-13-2008, 01:36 PM   #3
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You forgot one, Saden:

George W. Bush

Not to digress, but since you brought up Bush, I thought this was interesting. Some comparisons are a bit of a stretch, but nonetheless...

Another Four Years?
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:49 PM   #4
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Not to digress, but since you brought up Bush, I thought this was interesting. Some comparisons are a bit of a stretch, but nonetheless...

Another Four Years?
This is a guilt-by-association thing, not an argument! Just wanted to play a little rebulican-style ball here.

As for that CNN piece, I don't find it very compelling. The similarities are often very thin: they agree on abstinence? On national security? Really?

But let's say it's true. Doesn't that give lie to the claim by the McCain camp that Obama is a radical liberal out of touch with America? If he's basically in-step with Bush, he is not a liberal. Can't have it both ways, even in this nutty election season.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:59 PM   #5
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This is a guilt-by-association thing, not an argument! Just wanted to play a little rebulican-style ball here.

As for that CNN piece, I don't find it very compelling. The similarities are often very thin: they agree on abstinence? On national security? Really?

But let's say it's true. Doesn't that give lie to the claim by the McCain camp that Obama is a radical liberal out of touch with America? If he's basically in-step with Bush, he is not a liberal. Can't have it both ways, even in this nutty election season.
Maybe Bush is a liberal?
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You forgot one, Saden:

George W. Bush

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Old 10-13-2008, 02:18 PM   #7
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Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:

You might be joking but according to some conservative I know Bush is a liberal because he spends like one, etc, etc, etc. They were happy to claim him when he first got into office but they're now ready to toss him overboard and tell people he plays for the other side. It would be funny if they weren't so serious. I of course drop some Joe-Six-Pack knowledge on them and tell them when it comes to Bush I go with the "one-drop rule."
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:38 PM   #8
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Thats not a very good job with your associations and I don't see the personal conections. On that abortion bill which it is allready against the law to bomb or harrass people but making it illegal to protest is protected by law. You know the one.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:55 PM   #9
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Thats not a very good job with your associations and I don't see the personal conections. On that abortion bill which it is allready against the law to bomb or harrass people but making it illegal to protest is protected by law. You know the one.
I think it's silly but if we are comparing associations then I think mine are as valid as yours if not more valid. You are entitled to your opinion though.
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:49 PM   #10
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Thats not a very good job with your associations and I don't see the personal conections. On that abortion bill which it is allready against the law to bomb or harrass people but making it illegal to protest is protected by law. You know the one.
The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE or the Access Act, Pub. L. No. 103-259, 108 Stat. 694) (May 26, 1994, 18 U.S.C. § 248), passed in 1994, prohibits the use of intimidation or physical force to prevent or discourage persons from (A) gaining access to a reproductive health care facility (which most notably includes abortion clinics), or (B) exercising freedom to worship at a religious facility. The law also creates specific penalties for the destruction of, or damage to, a reproductive health care facility or place of religious worship.

Also, the right to protest is not without limits. The US Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government may impose certain time, place, and manner restrictions on protests.
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