Updated: Evaluating the QB Situation (Discuss Campbell, Colt, etc)

[53Fan]

Hey Matty. Ever thought about starting a Redskin, "We hate whoever the starting QB is at the time." site? Or maybe..." All Redskins...All Bitching!"?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Maybe you misheard cause all I would hear is how he always looks for his first option and even if it's not open he waits for it to get open, don't you recall the announcers during the cowboys game last year saying that brian Stewart , cowboys defensive coordinator, said that Campbell stays on his first read, and that if the could take away his they would win, which they did and he was picked off... And zorn would say we'll Jason had so and so wide open down open but he was trying to get it to Clinton , or Santana when he had Devon thomas wide open...

Boy, last season worked out wonderful for Brian Stewart and his incredible powers of observation.

[53Fan]

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Maybe you misheard cause all I would hear is how he always looks for his first option and even if it's not open he waits for it to get open, don't you recall the announcers during the cowboys game last year saying that brian Stewart , cowboys defensive coordinator, said that Campbell stays on his first read, and that if the could take away his they would win, which they did and he was picked off... And zorn would say we'll Jason had so and so wide open down open but he was trying to get it to Clinton , or Santana when he had Devon thomas wide open...

And most people who repeat this same old mantra always ignore Zorn's criticism of Campbell's late season play when he said that Campbell was moving too quickly through his reads and missing opportunities.

This board would be so much more enjoyable and have more substance in their threads if fans would accept 3 simple truths:
1. Jason Campbell is unquestionably our QB going into the 2009 season. There will be no camp competition, nor should there be. He's going to get AT LEAST 10 games without any risk of losing his position.
2. JC and JZ are linked at the hip. If Campbell succeeds, the team succeeds and Zorn sticks around. If Campbell doesn't develop and the team struggles or is worse than this year then Zorn and Campbell will both be gone in '10. By this time next year we will know without question if JC is our QB of the future or not.
3. Colt Brennan was drafted to be a long term project and likely a career backup. He put up sick numbers in college and lit up some UPS drivers, but anyone who knows anything about football could see that even in his 'highlights' in the preseason many of his throws would have been picked or gotten his WR killed against NFL starters. Think Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel. Seriously. That's who he is in the NFL.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

If there is truely open competition for QB this preseason JC wont be the starter.

LA-LA Land called. They said they miss you and it's time to come home.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

If there is truely open competition for QB this preseason JC wont be the starter.

Of course not. Randall-El's the man baby!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

And most people who repeat this same old mantra always ignore Zorn's criticism of Campbell's late season play when he said that Campbell was moving too quickly through his reads and missing opportunities.

This board would be so much more enjoyable and have more substance in their threads if fans would accept 3 simple truths:
1. Jason Campbell is unquestionably our QB going into the 2009 season. There will be no camp competition, nor should there be. He's going to get AT LEAST 10 games without any risk of losing his position.
2. JC and JZ are linked at the hip. If Campbell succeeds, the team succeeds and Zorn sticks around. If Campbell doesn't develop and the team struggles or is worse than this year then Zorn and Campbell will both be gone in '10. By this time next year we will know without question if JC is our QB of the future or not.
3. Colt Brennan was drafted to be a long term project and likely a career backup. He put up sick numbers in college and lit up some UPS drivers, but anyone who knows anything about football could see that even in his 'highlights' in the preseason many of his throws would have been picked or gotten his WR killed against NFL starters. Think Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel. Seriously. That's who he is in the NFL.

Great post Paintrain.

One of the funniest things to me is for years as a fan base we bitched and moaned about our pathetic QB situation. Now we have the closest thing we've had in God knows how long to an improving, solid young (just turned 27) quarterback, and half the people want to see him either traded or benched for Colt friggin Brennan. It just baffles me. COLT BRENNAN COULDN'T BEAT OUT TODD COLLINS FOR THE #2 SPOT!!! HELLO!!??

Get your heads on straight people.

[TheSmurfs22]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Of course not. Randall-El's the man baby!

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Question is, would El throw down the field or constantly throw across it like he runs?

I say bring back Jay Schrader!HAHA

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GMScud

LA-LA Land called. They said they miss you and it's time to come home.

He's off the meds again. We'll send someone right out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

And most people who repeat this same old mantra always ignore Zorn's criticism of Campbell's late season play when he said that Campbell was moving too quickly through his reads and missing opportunities.

This board would be so much more enjoyable and have more substance in their threads if fans would accept 3 simple truths:
1. Jason Campbell is unquestionably our QB going into the 2009 season. There will be no camp competition, nor should there be. He's going to get AT LEAST 10 games without any risk of losing his position.
2. JC and JZ are linked at the hip. If Campbell succeeds, the team succeeds and Zorn sticks around. If Campbell doesn't develop and the team struggles or is worse than this year then Zorn and Campbell will both be gone in '10. By this time next year we will know without question if JC is our QB of the future or not.
3. Colt Brennan was drafted to be a long term project and likely a career backup. He put up sick numbers in college and lit up some UPS drivers, but anyone who knows anything about football could see that even in his 'highlights' in the preseason many of his throws would have been picked or gotten his WR killed against NFL starters. Think Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel. Seriously. That's who he is in the NFL.

I'm not so sure about that. Let see how things play out in training camp.

[GMScud]

Another thing that's funny is not one single peep has come from inside the Redskins that even hints at anything resembling an open QB competition in training camp. Not one. Anyone who says anything about JC not getting an extension yet knows little about the cap/CBA situation heading into 2010.

Jason was the guy going into last season, and Zorn has reinforced as much heading into this coming season. There's no competition for the starting job. If anything, it will be interesting to see if Brennan can overtake Collins for the role of #1 Clipboard Holder.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not so sure about that. Let see how things play out in training camp.

I'd bet nearly anything to say he's the #3 QB coming out of camp.

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

And most people who repeat this same old mantra always ignore Zorn's criticism of Campbell's late season play when he said that Campbell was moving too quickly through his reads and missing opportunities.

This board would be so much more enjoyable and have more substance in their threads if fans would accept 3 simple truths:
1. Jason Campbell is unquestionably our QB going into the 2009 season. There will be no camp competition, nor should there be. He's going to get AT LEAST 10 games without any risk of losing his position.
2. JC and JZ are linked at the hip. If Campbell succeeds, the team succeeds and Zorn sticks around. If Campbell doesn't develop and the team struggles or is worse than this year then Zorn and Campbell will both be gone in '10. By this time next year we will know without question if JC is our QB of the future or not.
3. Colt Brennan was drafted to be a long term project and likely a career backup. He put up sick numbers in college and lit up some UPS drivers, but anyone who knows anything about football could see that even in his 'highlights' in the preseason many of his throws would have been picked or gotten his WR killed against NFL starters. Think Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel. Seriously. That's who he is in the NFL.

I've never heard zorn say that and I watched him on NBC all the time...still he was making mistakes during the 2nd half of the season and is a major factor as to why we slumped the second half of the season

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Boy, last season worked out wonderful for Brian Stewart and his incredible powers of observation.

Very true, but A) it's not like he's the only defensive coordinator who knows about JC's reads and B) last time I checked, the cowboys were still alive in the playoff hunt in the last week of the season wereas we were ruled out by week 15...this will be the year we see how good Campbell really is

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Very true, but A) it's not like he's the only defensive coordinator who knows about JC's reads and B) last time I checked, the cowboys were still alive in the playoff hunt in the last week of the season wereas we were ruled out by week 15...this will be the year we see how good Campbell really is

Don't forget that the Cowboys' expectations were very high at the beginning of the season, and were considered a SB contender; whereas the Redskins were not expected to do as well as they did.