Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS

Ruhskins · 03-07-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cobracai1

I think Smoot mentioned it but the Raiders didn't pick up Barnes. I honestly think that we should turn our attention to him as either depth or a potential starter on the right side in case one of the big 4 dont drop to us at 13. I'm starting to get worried we're going into the season with Jansen, Heyer, and Clark as our potential right tackles. That is scary to me

I just read this article from the SF Chronicle regarding Barnes and his unlikelihood of signing with the Raiders. The article mentions Barnes wanting to be a left tackle or at least get left tackle money. My question is...are people willing to give Barnes LT money to play RT?

SFGate: Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Door all but closed on Barnes

SmootSmack · 03-07-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cobracai1

I think Smoot mentioned it but the Raiders didn't pick up Barnes. I honestly think that we should turn our attention to him as either depth or a potential starter on the right side in case one of the big 4 dont drop to us at 13. I'm starting to get worried we're going into the season with Jansen, Heyer, and Clark as our potential right tackles. That is scary to me

I'm pretty sure we're one of the teams talking to him. I'm less and less sure the FO wants to select an OL high

gw0103 · 03-07-2009, 01:27 AM

this guy Mack is the real deal.. a tough, hard nosed guy that is versatile
with the lateral speed to get up and down the o-line. he generates a good
push at the point of attack that our running game needs to get the important
yards. he has good extension to hold up in pass protection, and with a
little of coach Bugle's influence will eclipse Rabach quick..( while a good leader,
Rabach doesn't really have the push strength Our team needs.) this guy, with
Dockery, Samuels, and hopefully a matured Heyer, could easily beat up the
D-lines in the conference and beyond and open gaps for the running game.

SmootSmack · 03-06-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I think it's become pretty clear that the Redsklins are drafting a right tackle with their first pick. If they don't like the value at #13 then they can trade back ten to fifteen spots and pick up a RT with a late first round grade and pick up another first day selection. That right tackle from Connecticut has a late first round grade. Or they can do the same thing and draft Alex Mack in the mid to late 20's. Either way they have no choice but to draft an offensive lineman. I think all this talk about taking a linebacker in the first seems more and more unlikely because the offensive line is a much bigger need. NFL linebackers grow on trees compared to quality offensive linemen.

I'd like to think an OT (or OG) will be their first pick, whether at 13 or down later in the first. But I'm not convinced it will be.

wilsowilso · 03-06-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd like to think an OT (or OG) will be their first pick, whether at 13 or down later in the first. But I'm not convinced it will be.

Me neither.

The Goat · 03-06-2009, 11:51 PM

Be interesting to see how Willis progresses in Seattle. What I haven't understood is how people classified him as a hum-ho prospect when at least statistically it looked like he was a best OT left on the market. For instance i keep hearing Willis and Barnes come up together. Barnes gave up 7.5 sacks last year and otherwise just performed poorly. Willis started 10 games played in all 16 and gave up just 1.5, so that's the pass protection stat, but also from the little bit i read on Seachicken boards he's a mauler too.

... anyway i tend to think now it's worth waiting till after the draft to sign any more FAs. Who knows which players teams will cut once they've got young studs to put in the line-up...

MiraclesHappen07 · 03-07-2009, 01:41 AM

As much as i would like to draft Mack, or any of these "Elite" Lineman, but who's saying that these guys will actually be studs? I mean sure they were the best in college, but thats college, this is NFL. There have been many times where this person or this one was stated as the "Elite" of this or that, and many of them turn out to be bust. BUT dont get me wrong a lot of them do live up to there title and do become elite, or atleast good. So im divide on what we should do. We have a poorus RT situation which needs a solution, but as someone mentioned before, last year we didnt have the up the middle push for the DEs to get to the Qb, now we have the push up the middle but other than Carter, nothing at DE. Sooooooo....
Redskins pick 13?.....I have no clue

Ruhskins · 03-07-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MiraclesHappen07

As much as i would like to draft Mack, or any of these "Elite" Lineman, but who's saying that these guys will actually be studs? I mean sure they were the best in college, but thats college, this is NFL. There have been many times where this person or this one was stated as the "Elite" of this or that, and many of them turn out to be bust. BUT dont get me wrong a lot of them do live up to there title and do become elite, or atleast good. So im divide on what we should do. We have a poorus RT situation which needs a solution, but as someone mentioned before, last year we didnt have the up the middle push for the DEs to get to the Qb, now we have the push up the middle but other than Carter, nothing at DE. Sooooooo....
Redskins pick 13?.....I have no clue

I think the offensive linemen that have been drafted at the top of the 1st round for the past couple of years have fared pretty well (D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Joe Thomas, the guy Miami picked up last year...can't remember his name). So I think it'd be a smart investment for the team to pick up a tackle or guard (preferably a tackle) at #13.

MiraclesHappen07 · 03-07-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the offensive linemen that have been drafted at the top of the 1st round for the past couple of years have fared pretty well (D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Joe Thomas, the guy Miami picked up last year...can't remember his name). So I think it'd be a smart investment for the team to pick up a tackle or guard (preferably a tackle) at #13.

Yeah i know, and i would prefer that they do. But im just saying what for some reason that dosent happen, for some reason who we draft at 13 just does not turn out how we all hope? Meh, maybe im just being paranoid

lol Im just ready for training camp to get here!

Ruhskins · 03-07-2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MiraclesHappen07

Yeah i know, and i would prefer that they do. But im just saying what for some reason that dosent happen, for some reason who we draft at 13 just does not turn out how we all hope? Meh, maybe im just being paranoid

lol Im just ready for training camp to get here!

Well that's where luck comes in....I mean the team has had a bit of luck (Chris Horton anyone?) but I think the track record of o-linemen taking in the first round has been ok lately.

And yeah I can't wait until training camp begins, I need something to follow.... I'm not into baseball, the Terps are sucking it up in basketball, and the only thing that's coming up is the NCAA Tourney.

MiraclesHappen07 · 03-07-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well that's where luck comes in....I mean the team has had a bit of luck (Chris Horton anyone?) but I think the track record of o-linemen taking in the first round has been ok lately.

And yeah I can't wait until training camp begins, I need something to follow.... I'm not into baseball, the Terps are sucking it up in basketball, and the only thing that's coming up is the NCAA Tourney.

Yeap, me ethier, plus my hokies arent living up to my execptations in basketball ethier! *shurgs*

GTripp0012 · 03-07-2009, 01:53 AM

With two needs (impact defensive player [DE or OLB or hybrid DE/OLB], offensive lineman who can play on the right side as a rookie), that Jason Taylor trade is looking really harmless now, ain't it?

The Goat · 03-07-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With two needs (impact defensive player [DE or OLB or hybrid DE/OLB], offensive lineman who can play on the right side as a rookie), that Jason Taylor trade is looking really harmless now, ain't it?

I'm probably just tired but I don't get your meaning...

MiraclesHappen07 · 03-07-2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm probably just tired but I don't get your meaning...

I think he was trying to be sarcastic, lol

GTripp0012 · 03-07-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm probably just tired but I don't get your meaning...

If we had the second round pick, we could conceivably fill those needs. Now, we are pretty much stuck having to choose between them.

03-07-2009, 01:27 AM	#3
gw0103 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 41	Re: Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS this guy Mack is the real deal.. a tough, hard nosed guy that is versatile with the lateral speed to get up and down the o-line. he generates a good push at the point of attack that our running game needs to get the important yards. he has good extension to hold up in pass protection, and with a little of coach Bugle's influence will eclipse Rabach quick..( while a good leader, Rabach doesn't really have the push strength Our team needs.) this guy, with Dockery, Samuels, and hopefully a matured Heyer, could easily beat up the D-lines in the conference and beyond and open gaps for the running game.

03-06-2009, 11:51 PM	#6
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS Be interesting to see how Willis progresses in Seattle. What I haven't understood is how people classified him as a hum-ho prospect when at least statistically it looked like he was a best OT left on the market. For instance i keep hearing Willis and Barnes come up together. Barnes gave up 7.5 sacks last year and otherwise just performed poorly. Willis started 10 games played in all 16 and gave up just 1.5, so that's the pass protection stat, but also from the little bit i read on Seachicken boards he's a mauler too. ... anyway i tend to think now it's worth waiting till after the draft to sign any more FAs. Who knows which players teams will cut once they've got young studs to put in the line-up... __________________ 24-34

03-07-2009, 01:41 AM	#7
MiraclesHappen07 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richlands, Va Posts: 318	Re: Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS As much as i would like to draft Mack, or any of these "Elite" Lineman, but who's saying that these guys will actually be studs? I mean sure they were the best in college, but thats college, this is NFL. There have been many times where this person or this one was stated as the "Elite" of this or that, and many of them turn out to be bust. BUT dont get me wrong a lot of them do live up to there title and do become elite, or atleast good. So im divide on what we should do. We have a poorus RT situation which needs a solution, but as someone mentioned before, last year we didnt have the up the middle push for the DEs to get to the Qb, now we have the push up the middle but other than Carter, nothing at DE. Sooooooo.... Redskins pick 13?.....I have no clue __________________ Resistance is futile, The Burgundy and Gold are coming!!! "Football can like a box of chocolates, nevers know what your gona get any given sunday"-From zach williams, revised verison from Forest Gump

03-07-2009, 01:53 AM	#12
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS With two needs (impact defensive player [DE or OLB or hybrid DE/OLB], offensive lineman who can play on the right side as a rookie), that Jason Taylor trade is looking really harmless now, ain't it? __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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