If we had to part w/ one more player...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Buster

Suisham!

Which brings up the question: Why haven't we signed a real kicker and a real punter?

As for who I'd cut: Thrash. That's because he really won't have a role on this team if the young WR's do anything this season and we would clear $850K in cap room by cutting him.

BTW, it is short-sighted to say we should cut Rabach. Even if we brought in another center to push Rabach, that player would have a lot to learn before he could effectively take over the position. That's why Rabach needs to stay. What we should do is draft a center this year, because there are at least five promising ones available in the 2009 draft, and that player could be groomed to take over the position down the line.

Alex Mack, California
Height: 6-4. Weight: 311.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
Combine 40 Time: DNP.
Benchx225: DNP. Arm: 33.
Projected Round (2009): 1.

Max Unger, Oregon
Height: 6-5. Weight: 309.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Combine 40 Time: 5.27.
Benchx225: 22. Arm: 33 1/2.
Projected Round (2009): 1-2.

Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
Height: 6-4. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
Combine 40 Time: 5.14.
Benchx225: 26. Arm: 31 1/4.
Projected Round (2009): 2.

Eric Wood, Louisville
Height: 6-4. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.09.
Combine 40 Time: 5.17.
Benchx225: 30. Arm: 33 3/4.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.

Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
Height: 6-3. Weight: 309.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
Combine 40 Time: 5.23.
Benchx225: 23. Arm: 34.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Which brings up the question: Why haven't we signed a real kicker and a real punter?

From Vinny C's files:

[vallin21]

RABACH!!! He's always been mediocre and with 2 prospects available at C (Mack and Unger) we can save 2.3 mil releasing him.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by vallin21

RABACH!!! He's always been mediocre and with 2 prospects available at C (Mack and Unger) we can save 2.3 mil releasing him.

I think there are at least five good prospects available at C in this draft (see my edited post above). Nevertheless, even if we take one, I think we're going to need Rabach for at least one more season until the young C is ready.

[Paintrain]

Probably Betts. Aside from the occasional first down catch he seems like more negative happens when he is out there (missed blocks, fumbles) than good.

Also, Thrash. He's a special teams stud and a all around pro, I get it, but I've watched a few of our '08 games recently and he drops so many passes he makes me miss Rod Gardner's consistency. He should never be inserted on offense ever again.

[KLHJ2]

It's not a popular pick, but I don't care. London Fletcher for the age and Salary cap factor only. In no way do I believe that he cannot play the position anymore or that he is too old now. This would strictly be a youth/salary cap movement.

I like London Fletcher, but this is a business.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Angry

It's not a popular pick, but I don't care. London Fletcher for the age and Salary cap factor only. In no way do I believe that he cannot play the position anymore or that he is too old now. This would strictly be a youth/salary cap movement.

I like London Fletcher, but this is a business.

So... get rid of arguably our defensive MVP in the name of youth and the cap?

We're not that desperate for cap space you know.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So... get rid of arguably our defensive MVP in the name of youth and the cap?

We're not that desperate for cap space you know.

Edit: LOL, I knew I was going to catch hell for that. I believe that Blades is a year or 2 from being able to replace him with the same type of production. Like I said I do not dislike LF. I hope that we do not get rid of him, but the question in the thread was "If we had to part w/ one more player..."

I justified my reasons and I will stick with it.

[SmootSmack]

I'd probably say Jon Jansen in all honesty. Love the guy, but he's struggling just to stay upright it seems. I don't know if he has much left to give and it would (hopefully) force us to realize we need to go after an OT

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Angry

I knew I was going to catch hell for that. I believe that Blades is a year or 2 from being able to replace him with the same type of production. Like I said I do not dislike LF. I hope that we do not get rid of him, but the question in the thread was "If we had to part w/ one more player..."

I justified my reasons and I will stick with it.

Catch hell? Sorry I won't try to discuss anything with you in the future.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd probably say Jon Jansen in all honesty. Love the guy, but he's struggling just to stay upright it seems. I don't know if he has much left to give and it would (hopefully) force us to realize we need to go after an OT

I can see that, but the thought of handing it over to Heyer still makes me nervous. Sorry for giving you hell.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Catch hell? Sorry I won't try to discuss anything with you in the future.

I meant it in jest. Would it have helped to put a silly little "LOL" in front of that?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can see that, but the thought of handing it over to Heyer still makes me nervous. Sorry for giving you hell.

Typical ego behavior. I shouldn't even be surprised anymore

[JLW428]

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[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally I like Betts, I just think he's a guy that needs more work to be effective. I think if he got 10-15 carries a game rather than 5 or less we would see better results. And a fresher Portis by year's end to boot.

That's the thing I don't get with people about Betts. How's he suppose to be productive when he never gets the ball? I'd like to see him get a lot more carries than he's been getting.