Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If you remember correctly we had no QB that year. Trent Green left for STL cause the ownership situation was a mess. If you ask me that was a damn good move as Brad had a pro bowl year and then went on to win a SB w/ TB. Back then BJ was not a top tier QB but he was more than serviceable.

I'd take Charley back over Vinny in a heartbeat but it will never happen. I heard Vinny on the radio this am and he simply DOES NOT have the knowledge or smarts that Casserly does. Casserly is on NFL Network and CBS and he just REALLY REALLY knows his stuff and you can tell why this guy rose from being George Allen's unpaid gofer, to an NFL general manager and TV consultant. If you listen to the two it's like night and day. Today Vinny was still backing the move for Jason Taylor saying, "he'd do the same thing all over again." What????? Sometimes I just shake my head in amazement that he's in the position he is in but it is what it is and Vinny isn't going anywhere.

Trent Green left because we would not give him the type of money he was looking for. Since he was a FA he decided to follow Martz to St. Louis. The decision basically blew up in all of our faces. Green gets injured and eventually replaced by Warner, and we let a tier 2 QB go because we would not pony up the dough. Of course if any of us had realized then what we had in Green, we would have never let him walk.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Angry

Trent Green left because we would not give him the type of money he was looking for. Since he was a FA he decided to follow Martz to St. Louis. The decision basically blew up in all of our faces. Green gets injured and eventually replaced by Warner, and we let a tier 2 QB go because we would not pony up the dough. Of course if any of us had realized then what we had in Green, we would have never let him walk.

Skinsfan69 is right though, he left mainly because there was no ownership in place to offer him a deal

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How do you figure that?

He signed "Plan B" FAs Martin Mayhew and Fred Stokes. JK

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Casserly did have some really rough drafts & they were at a time when the franchise REALLY needed them to be fruitful. As a talent evaluator I don't know that he's any better than Vinny. But as a guy who pulled off good trades & had a sense of value w/draft picks, I think he's shown quite a good track record. Plus, he looks pretty good now w/the Mario Williams pick & the building of Houston that he did.

Don't be too hard on him for some of those picks, e.g. D. Howard. As Casserly said himself, there was no GM out there that didn't think Howard was a great prospect. WRs are a boom/bust pick.

And w/Westbrook, I put that one on Turner. I know Casserly was GM, but the word was that Turner really wanted him. I'm still pissed that they passed on Warren Sapp that year & then went on to sign stubby & Big Daddy a couple years afterward.

Heath Shuler? That guy looked like a star on the rise when he started here, but he could never make it happen. I can't fault CC or Norvelle for picking him, he seemed to have it all. His early years he was much like D. McNabb, but obviously his game never evolved.

Funny how CC gets a pass on so much and Vinny gets nada.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

All GM's have good picks and bad picks. Nobody is perfect.
Casserly took over as GM of the Redskins in 1989. So he basically can be credited for putting together the 1992 Super Bowl Team.
Casserly has been credited with unearthing undrafted FA's Joe Jacoby and Jeff Bostic.
He has also been credited for finding future probowl players 5th round pick Brian Mitchell, 4th rounder Stephen Davis, 12th round pick Keenan McCardell and 6th round Frank Wychek.
In regards to Brad Johnson, he arrived here and responded with a Pro Bowl season and lead us to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We were a bad snap on a very makable field goal away from making to the NFC Championship. We lost 14-13 to Tampa due to a bad snap. He drove us down the field against a very good defense to only have our long snapper F it up on a chip shot FG. Brad Johnson went on later to win the Superbowl with Tampa.

Wow he did all this? Wonder why they called Bobby Beathard the GM then?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Skinsfan69 is right though, he left mainly because there was no ownership in place to offer him a deal

AHH! So that's the missing link. That makes sense.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Angry

Trent Green left because we would not give him the type of money he was looking for. Since he was a FA he decided to follow Martz to St. Louis. The decision basically blew up in all of our faces. Green gets injured and eventually replaced by Warner, and we let a tier 2 QB go because we would not pony up the dough. Of course if any of us had realized then what we had in Green, we would have never let him walk.

Yeah. Green started the last part of the '98 season and his play was not Tier 2 (whatever that is). That's why St. Louis signed him to what seemed like at the time a big contract. I went to an early game in 98 that the Skins lost to then-juggernaut Denver and I immediately could tell that Green could see the field better than anyone we had started in years. He got the ball out in time to the right people. I remember being angry at Norv for leaving him on the bench for three years. If he had played in 96 and 97, I believe we would have made the playoffs.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Yeah. Green started the last part of the '98 season and his play was not Tier 2 (whatever that is). That's why St. Louis signed him to what seemed like at the time a big contract. I went to an early game in 98 that the Skins lost to then-juggernaut Denver and I immediately could tell that Green could see the field better than anyone we had started in years. He got the ball out in time to the right people. I remember being angry at Norv for leaving him on the bench for three years. If he had played in 96 and 97, I believe we would have made the playoffs.

Hall of famer is Tier 1. Pro Bowler is tier 2. You might want to restate your comment.

[70Chip]

Richard Justice seems to have mixed feelings about Casserly. Justice is my all-time favorite Skins beat writer. He wrote stories that had in them how do you say it...information. Scoops I guess they would be. I'm not sure I buy that Casserly leaked stories to "get back at" Justice. There's no law that says we must all genuflect before the greatness and superiority of the Washington Post - no matter what the people who work there believe.

SportsJustice: Remembering Charley Casserly's role in this mess

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Bottomline: Casserly is better off doing something other than being GM of an NFL team.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Eknox

I've been listening to him a lot on NFL Network, And maybe it's just me but he seems to still know his stuff and he makes a lot of sense with his evaluations.
What do you think?(if he was available)

In a second I would take him back!

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It was a 52 yard attempt

NFL playoffs, 1999–2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regardless of the yards, Skins should have had a new set of downs after the play, as Alexander was interfered with when Johnson tossed him the desperation pass!

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Coff

Regardless of the yards, Skins should have had a new set of downs after the play, as Alexander was interfered with when Johnson tossed him the desperation pass!

Good luck getting the refs to throw that flag on the road. They never would have made it to the airport. The Conway kick was a 50/50 proposition at best.

[CRedskinsRule]

is pass interference ever going to be reviewable? just curious.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

He signed "Plan B" FAs Martin Mayhew and Fred Stokes. JK

And Jumpy Geathers.