Ryan Moats and the DPD

CRedskinsRule · 03-27-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the biggest issue for me is that there were hospital personnel that came out to the parking lot to confirm that indeed Moat's mother-in-law was dying. I think at that point, the cop should've stopped everything and let Moat in the hospital.

Prior to that, I'm sure the cop was just reacting to the situation and following what his training and experience had taught him. I don't think any of us (unless we've had the experience, and I haven't) can say how the cop should've reacted initially. But I think common sense should have told him to let Moat go once the nurses from the hospital came to the parking lot to explain the situation.

I was a Military Policeman for 5 years, 91-96, not the same as a Texas street cop by any means, but I know that if I am in that situation, the factors I pointed to earlier all should have given this man a clue. And in 3yrs on the job, I am also positive he has had his share of traffic stops, dealing with unruly drivers, etc, and the video, after the women leave, shows Moats was behaving well for a grieving man. Sorry, no pass whatsoever from me on this one.

Ruhskins · 03-27-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I was a Military Policeman for 5 years, 91-96, not the same as a Texas street cop by any means, but I know that if I am in that situation, the factors I pointed to earlier all should have given this man a clue. And in 3yrs on the job, I am also positive he has had his share of traffic stops, dealing with unruly drivers, etc, and the video, after the women leave, shows Moats was behaving well for a grieving man. Sorry, no pass whatsoever from me on this one.

I didn't read your previous post but thanks for your input. I know it's easy to criticize (and in this case rightfully so, but it's better to hear it from an experienced perspective.

CRedskinsRule · 03-27-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I didn't read your previous post but thanks for your input. I know it's easy to criticize (and in this case rightfully so, but it's better to hear it from an experienced perspective.

but then I could barely ever comment

skinsfan69 · 03-27-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

First off, the cop needs to get fired. I'm not sure if it was in that article or another one but he pulled out his gun on the wife when she got out of the car and started for the hospital door. If 4 people get out of a car in tears doesn't it make sense that there may some legitimacy to their story. Hell, even escort the driver into the hospital to confirm the story but to detain him and threaten him with jail and say 'I don't care' when he said that his mother in law is dying is just inexcusable.

As for the racial undertones, I'm certainly not going to dismiss it and would lean towards he wasn't given any benefit of the doubt based on that factor. I just don't want to see Jesse and Rev. Al holding a press conference on the hospital lawn.

Could not have said it any better.

skinsfan69 · 03-27-2009, 04:59 PM

The video was very disturbing and as someone else mentioned, if that was me it would've turned out pretty bad. I would've went to jail and probably resisted arrest. I give a lot of credit to Moats for being as cool as he was. But the officer was just a plain out 100% asshole. Why did he continue to talk all that BS once the nurse came out? Simply no reason to act like that. None what so ever and he should be suspended WITHOUT PAY.

hagams · 03-27-2009, 07:21 PM

I'm not defending anyone either, but it is SOP (standard operating procedures) that after someone refuses to pull over, and then seems to run, exit the car, or makes any move deemed dangerous that a higher level of force is required.

I have a huge freaking problem with the cop though.

1. If I'm going to run from the cops, and blow through a stop light, I certainly wouldn't have had my hazards on.
2. If a chase ends in the emergency room of a hospital, something should have clicked that there might be a medical emergency in the car.

(for those of you that didn't see the video with sound)
3. After everything settled down, and the cop was writing the ticket a nurse came outside and told him that her mother was in the hospital and was dying "right now". His reply was, "I'm almost done here".

Cop should be fired, and the city should find something to try and show some sympathy to the wife. This is a ****ed up situation, and I would have probably took a bullet to the back. If my mother (God forbid) was dying, and the hospital said I needed to be there fast, I wouldn't have stopped when the cop drew his weapon.

MTK · 03-29-2009, 11:40 PM

The latest:

The hits keep on coming for Dallas cop - NFC East - ESPN

53Fan · 03-29-2009, 11:50 PM

I repeat my earlier post. Fire the stupid SOB.

Dirtbag59 · 03-30-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The latest:

The hits keep on coming for Dallas cop - NFC East - ESPN

Well at least now we know that racism likely wasn't the cause of the Moats incident. With that said I think it's safe to say that the guy is just a bad person, plain and simple.

skinsfan69 · 03-30-2009, 12:08 AM

Since when do you go to jail for an illegal u turn and not having proof of insurance? Yeah this guy sounds like he got his ass beat multiple times when he was younger and is taking it out on the world.

Dirtbag59 · 03-30-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Since when do you go to jail for an illegal u turn and not having proof of insurance? Yeah this guy sounds like he got his ass beat multiple times when he was younger and is taking it out on the world.

LMAO, going after footballers and their families. No wonder he's always clutching his holster.

gibbsisgod · 03-30-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Well at least now we know that racism likely wasn't the cause of the Moats incident. With that said I think it's safe to say that the guy is just a bad person, plain and simple.

Don't be so sure. I believe Mrs Thomas is hispanic.

dmek25 · 03-30-2009, 10:30 AM

good call giggity. and good morning

Redskin Warrior · 03-30-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The video was very disturbing and as someone else mentioned, if that was me it would've turned out pretty bad. I would've went to jail and probably resisted arrest. I give a lot of credit to Moats for being as cool as he was. But the officer was just a plain out 100% asshole. Why did he continue to talk all that BS once the nurse came out? Simply no reason to act like that. None what so ever and he should be suspended WITHOUT PAY.

You kind of have no choice but to be cool if an officer has a pistol pointed at you.

Miller101 · 03-31-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The latest:

The hits keep on coming for Dallas cop - NFC East - ESPN

Three hours in jail for an illegal U-Turn!?!?!?!? Are you freaking kidding me! Illegal U-Turn is a $50 fine and have a nice day. Arresting someone for it defines the word bullcrud!

Dallas streets are better off without this cop on them!

03-27-2009, 04:59 PM	#35
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,334	Re: Ryan Moats and the DPD The video was very disturbing and as someone else mentioned, if that was me it would've turned out pretty bad. I would've went to jail and probably resisted arrest. I give a lot of credit to Moats for being as cool as he was. But the officer was just a plain out 100% asshole. Why did he continue to talk all that BS once the nurse came out? Simply no reason to act like that. None what so ever and he should be suspended WITHOUT PAY.

03-27-2009, 07:21 PM	#36
hagams Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Beaufort SC Age: 45 Posts: 933	Re: Ryan Moats and the DPD I'm not defending anyone either, but it is SOP (standard operating procedures) that after someone refuses to pull over, and then seems to run, exit the car, or makes any move deemed dangerous that a higher level of force is required. I have a huge freaking problem with the cop though. 1. If I'm going to run from the cops, and blow through a stop light, I certainly wouldn't have had my hazards on. 2. If a chase ends in the emergency room of a hospital, something should have clicked that there might be a medical emergency in the car. (for those of you that didn't see the video with sound) 3. After everything settled down, and the cop was writing the ticket a nurse came outside and told him that her mother was in the hospital and was dying "right now". His reply was, "I'm almost done here". Cop should be fired, and the city should find something to try and show some sympathy to the wife. This is a ****ed up situation, and I would have probably took a bullet to the back. If my mother (God forbid) was dying, and the hospital said I needed to be there fast, I wouldn't have stopped when the cop drew his weapon. __________________ We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!

03-29-2009, 11:40 PM	#37
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Ryan Moats and the DPD The latest: The hits keep on coming for Dallas cop - NFC East - ESPN __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-29-2009, 11:50 PM	#38
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Ryan Moats and the DPD I repeat my earlier post. Fire the stupid SOB. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

03-30-2009, 12:08 AM	#40
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,334	Re: Ryan Moats and the DPD Since when do you go to jail for an illegal u turn and not having proof of insurance? Yeah this guy sounds like he got his ass beat multiple times when he was younger and is taking it out on the world.

03-30-2009, 10:30 AM	#43
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Ryan Moats and the DPD good call giggity. and good morning __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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