National love for Giants, Eagles' drafts out of control?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I also think we should keep in mind that one Albert Haynesworth will make more impact by himself this season than will any other NFC East team's entire draft.
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Why ,will he be playing both ways?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Why ,will he be playing both ways?

No, Albert H. won't be playing both ways, but his presence should make our defense even better. Just like how the Giants signing 10 defensive linemen should (I know it's not 10) bolster its already potent defense, instead of the team addressing the loss of Plax (well they sort of did with Hakeem Nicks, but they didn't get Edwards or Boldin).

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Why ,will he be playing both ways?

Yes. He will play center on goal line plays with Campbell, Sellers, and Portis lined up behind him.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Yes. He will play center on goal line plays with Campbell, Sellers, and Portis lined up behind him.

He can also kick and punt. LOL.

[SouperMeister]

Why should anyone care what the media thinks about anybody's draft? You cannot fully evaluate the impact of a draft class for at least 2-3 years. As little as we got out of our 2008 class, I'm still very optimistic that it will look like a strong draft after next season.

[Lotus]

What we need to do is win the Big Dance. Then everyone will be lovin' on us.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Lotus

What we need to do is win the Big Dance. Then everyone will be lovin' on us.

Very true . Lets see how amazing everyone thinks the iggles and g-ants look when there rookie wr's run the wrong routes and lil Eli is crying from all the hard knocks that he will take from , big AL , Orakpo and ,,, Landry who will have 5-6 sacks this year .

[GMScud]

I think it's hilarious that they gave the Cowboys' draft a higher rating than ours. What a joke that is.

I spent Monday and Tuesday listening to Kiper and McShay talk about what a flop Dallas' draft was. Confused.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think it's hilarious that they gave the Cowboys' draft a higher rating than ours. What a joke that is.

I spent Monday and Tuesday listening to Kiper and McShay talk about what a flop Dallas' draft was. Confused.

Your not as confused as J. Jones will be after we gash his defense for 400 yds in route to a 27 - 10 thumping !

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think it's hilarious that they gave the Cowboys' draft a higher rating than ours. What a joke that is.

I spent Monday and Tuesday listening to Kiper and McShay talk about what a flop Dallas' draft was. Confused.

I saw the NFC East teams draft grade and it looked liked this..
NFC East
1.Eagles A-
2.Giants A-
3.Redskins C+
4.Dallas D

Not quite sure if it was a A- or A for Eagles and Giants

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A high-impact NFC East draft column - NFC East - ESPN

Usually, I'm not one to publicly harp on what the national media thinks. Admittedly, privately, I can be very critical of poorly constructed opinions. But, I think there's a double standard going on.

Jeremy Maclin was a player both teams were targeting, and the Eagles were able to use information they tracked down about teams, potentially the Giants, trading up to 20 to get Maclin, so they were able to get up to 19.

Here's what I don't understand: either you like the Maclin move if you don't. If you think he was a top ten player, then the Eagles draft looks great. A top ten player and a first round RB on the first day is a great haul indeed -- but then what do you say about the Giants?

If you think Maclin was a top player, then logic dicatates that the Giants lost out at a chance at an elite player at a need position because they weren't willing to give up a third round pick instead of a fourth, essentially, to get up to pick 18 or so. And no matter how you look at it, the Giants ended up missing on the 2nd WR on their board for their 4th or 5th. That's a really big downgrade no matter what position they drafted at. When it's a position with a 40% first round washout rate, that's really, really bad.

And all of that follows from the logic that Maclin is going to be a great player. In reality, I think he was a very overvalued receiver who will be stuck behind much better players in Philly. I have no problem tipping my cap to two teams who appear to have a great haul in the second round, but after you mix up the first round as the Giants, and debatably the Eagles did, your draft doesn't get an A+. Sorry, that's not how it works.

The Redskins were the only team to get an immediate impact player in this draft (well, LeSean McCoy, probably). And I think that's going largely unnoticed because of, well, because of I'm not really sure.

End rant.

One of your best rants Tripp I think.

[djnemo65]

All these draft evaluations represent is the degree to which teams maximize the value of their picks given the draft board of general consensus. If a player is considered the 20th best player in the draft and you get him at 25, then it's a great pick. If you get him at 7 it's a terrible pick.

Given this framework both teams did fine, although that obviously doesn't mean a thing moving forward. It's like evaluating an incoming college student based on his or her high school grades and SAT scores, when what really matters is his or her performance over the subsequent four years.

But I can't complain because I watch every minute of the draft every year, read every mock, and have a blast doing it.

[Chief PA]

Eagles did well always do better then us. Since Lurie came into Philly 10 years ago they have handed us and danny our tails. Over the past 10 years they are a winning succesful franchise, we on the other hand are losers thanks to danny and vinny, we have a winning stat of 48 percent

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chief PA

Eagles did well always do better then us. Since Lurie came into Philly 10 years ago they have handed us and danny our tails. Over the past 10 years they are a winning succesful franchise, we on the other hand are losers thanks to danny and vinny, we have a winning stat of 48 percent

didn't we beat them both times this year?
Philly has had a successful run, mainly because of the trio of Reid, McNabb, and Westbrook. We will see how their draft turns out, but their draft history is not nearly as good as ours, particularly over the last 3-4 years, especially considering how many more picks they have taken then us.
(the pro-football reference under history lets you search the past drafts if you want to compare)

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Chief PA

Eagles did well always do better then us. Since Lurie came into Philly 10 years ago they have handed us and danny our tails. Over the past 10 years they are a winning succesful franchise, we on the other hand are losers thanks to danny and vinny, we have a winning stat of 48 percent

Thats the second time you have mentioned that. If fact, most of your 8 posts are dedicated to your dislike of the skins front office. Are you even a skins fan of a person who loves to hate on the redskins? Wait a minute, I know you,..... JLC?