I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance

tryfuhl · 05-11-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill B

I think with the improvements we made on Defense we will again be top 5 but we will also be presurring the passer way more - which will cause more turnovers and more 3 and outs with better field position. I think that one thing we have to remember here is that better field position will help the offense a whole heck of a lot more than people think - a lot of times the offense last year did not do too well because of the bad field position they started with. How many times do you see a team that gets a turnover in the opponents side and rams it down for a touchdown and turns the game into their favor? The problem with the Skins in years past was their defense was not causing a lot of turnovers and they also were not giving the offense the best field position.

Granted the offense needs to step it up a little and hopefully being in the system in year 2 will help that greatly - but I think the improved defense alone can add 2 wins to our record.

Well even with good field position our offense seemed rather paltry. Hopefully that's where the o-line and wr potential improvements can help out. It was ridiculous how many times we had to punt from around midfield.

DieHardSkinsFan777 · 05-11-2009, 05:09 PM

well zorn and jc better go ahead and pack up now...geez

irish · 05-11-2009, 07:53 PM

23 is a bt low but this is a mid-pack team at best.

SmootSmack · 05-11-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

23 is a bt low but this is a mid-pack team at best.

I think that's a pretty honest assesment at this point in the off-season.

4mrusmc · 05-11-2009, 09:30 PM

The true proof in the pudding is to find out how accurate has this poll been over the years at predicting anything, and then analyze the data. We should all do that before we all possibly put our foot in our mouths.

My feeling is that we have all been high with expectation before in seasons past, only to be let down big time. Our team has not been very convincing with it's on-field prowess, and most importantly, wins versus loses. Call me a pessimist, but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice.....

NYCskinfan82 · 05-11-2009, 09:45 PM

I don't like to listen to these guys they never played sports in the life.

WaldSkins · 05-11-2009, 10:11 PM

Check this chart out on what the "experts" said was gonna happen during the 2008 season:

NFL Crystal Ball: '08 Predictions - 2008 NFL Preview - SI.com

Yea he only had 3 of the 8 divisions right, but he also had the redskins earning a wildcard birth. I always thought that Peter King was one of the few reporters out there that gave the redskins any credit. But like Matty said, how much can you really take from these power rankings in May?

CRedskinsRule · 05-12-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Check this chart out on what the "experts" said was gonna happen during the 2008 season:

NFL Crystal Ball: '08 Predictions - 2008 NFL Preview - SI.com

Yea he only had 3 of the 8 divisions right, but he also had the redskins earning a wildcard birth. I always thought that Peter King was one of the few reporters out there that gave the redskins any credit. But like Matty said, how much can you really take from these power rankings in May?

Interesting notes:

no one picked the Steelers to go to the SB (I was surprised)

the negative guesses at the bottom of the page were much more on target then the positive assertions.

johno · 05-12-2009, 07:59 AM

its may, hence why he has the bears a 4. what a joke.

GusFrerotte · 05-12-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by johno

its may, hence why he has the bears a 4. what a joke.

Hence why Matty said what he said about power polls in May. Cutler isn't going to propel that team to the top at all. but then again they are in one of the crappiest divisions in the NFL.

CRedskinsRule · 05-12-2009, 09:07 AM

It would be nice to have a division title this decade. And I am not saying that to nitpick, just as a point of fact. We have the most upside potential for a lot of reasons, but until the team earns it on the field, the "analysts" certainly will not give it to the Skins.

Miller101 · 05-12-2009, 09:14 AM

I think we are going to be really good or really crappy. We're gonna be in the top 10's or bottom 30's. I don't give Peter King a whole alot of credibility either. He's always wrong........ABOUT EVERYTHING! Especially Art Monk. I haven't gotten over that. I haven't gotten over all of his years of blocking Art Monk out of the hall of fame. And that signature catch thing...............that was the dumbest argument ever presented by someone that is supposed to know football. Peter King is an idiot!

Anyways, I think it all depends on Zorn and his coaching. And his play calling too. If Zorn has learned how to pick up the outside blitz in his offense.............and how to run the ball..........then that alone will make this team go far this year. But, he needs to find ways to exploit the double teams that our opponenents give to Moss and Cooley all the darn time. If he figures that out then we'll be blowing out every team we play. He's had a year in one of the toughest divisions in football. He's had a year at seeing how the NFL Defenses adjusted to his coaching style. He's had a year to teach his coaching style to Jason, Portis, Cooley, Sellers, Moss, and the rest of the offense. He's had a year to figure out not only the strengths that they bring to his offense, but the weaknesses as well. We'll see what he can do with it this year. He better win! Against that team in Texas that is..............

DBUCHANON101 · 05-12-2009, 10:54 AM

He also has Dallas in the top 10. no T.O and Williams scares noone. They fall this season.

ronnieo · 05-12-2009, 11:15 AM

Bottom line is until the Skins earn some respect by winning games, nobody is going to give it to us. Losing 6 out of the last 8 doesn't help. Unless Zorn goes 12 and 4 or makes the super bowl, we will have a new coach and a new quarterback and here we go again.................

DBUCHANON101 · 05-12-2009, 11:28 AM

PPL act like DS is firing HC's left and right. He brought in Spurrier when he got here,at the time many teams had tried to lure him out of the college ranks.Spurrier resigned and he went back to Gibbs. who re-retired so he brought in Zorn. so its not like he is giving HC's a short leash, they either resign or retire. which cant be put on the owner.

05-11-2009, 07:53 PM	#3
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance 23 is a bt low but this is a mid-pack team at best.

05-11-2009, 09:30 PM	#5
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 56 Posts: 559	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance The true proof in the pudding is to find out how accurate has this poll been over the years at predicting anything, and then analyze the data. We should all do that before we all possibly put our foot in our mouths. My feeling is that we have all been high with expectation before in seasons past, only to be let down big time. Our team has not been very convincing with it's on-field prowess, and most importantly, wins versus loses. Call me a pessimist, but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice..... __________________ Put'n bodies in motion, cuz I got the notion. Fresh for 88' you suckaz.

05-11-2009, 09:45 PM	#6
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance I don't like to listen to these guys they never played sports in the life.

05-11-2009, 10:11 PM	#7
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 42 Posts: 2,726	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance Check this chart out on what the "experts" said was gonna happen during the 2008 season: NFL Crystal Ball: '08 Predictions - 2008 NFL Preview - SI.com Yea he only had 3 of the 8 divisions right, but he also had the redskins earning a wildcard birth. I always thought that Peter King was one of the few reporters out there that gave the redskins any credit. But like Matty said, how much can you really take from these power rankings in May? __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown Last edited by WaldSkins; 05-11-2009 at 10:17 PM.

05-12-2009, 07:59 AM	#9
johno Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest, DC Posts: 599	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance its may, hence why he has the bears a 4. what a joke.

05-11-2009, 05:09 PM	#2
DieHardSkinsFan777 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 110	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance well zorn and jc better go ahead and pack up now...geez

05-12-2009, 09:07 AM	#11
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,744	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance It would be nice to have a division title this decade. And I am not saying that to nitpick, just as a point of fact. We have the most upside potential for a lot of reasons, but until the team earns it on the field, the "analysts" certainly will not give it to the Skins.

05-12-2009, 09:14 AM	#12
Miller101 Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 362	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance I think we are going to be really good or really crappy. We're gonna be in the top 10's or bottom 30's. I don't give Peter King a whole alot of credibility either. He's always wrong........ABOUT EVERYTHING! Especially Art Monk. I haven't gotten over that. I haven't gotten over all of his years of blocking Art Monk out of the hall of fame. And that signature catch thing...............that was the dumbest argument ever presented by someone that is supposed to know football. Peter King is an idiot! Anyways, I think it all depends on Zorn and his coaching. And his play calling too. If Zorn has learned how to pick up the outside blitz in his offense.............and how to run the ball..........then that alone will make this team go far this year. But, he needs to find ways to exploit the double teams that our opponenents give to Moss and Cooley all the darn time. If he figures that out then we'll be blowing out every team we play. He's had a year in one of the toughest divisions in football. He's had a year at seeing how the NFL Defenses adjusted to his coaching style. He's had a year to teach his coaching style to Jason, Portis, Cooley, Sellers, Moss, and the rest of the offense. He's had a year to figure out not only the strengths that they bring to his offense, but the weaknesses as well. We'll see what he can do with it this year. He better win! Against that team in Texas that is.............. __________________ "And the Redskins went down there and manhandled them and they basically undressed them and now everybody's been lining up to get a piece of them." - John Riggins on the last game we played in Texas Stadium

05-12-2009, 10:54 AM	#13
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance He also has Dallas in the top 10. no T.O and Williams scares noone. They fall this season.

05-12-2009, 11:15 AM	#14
ronnieo Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance Bottom line is until the Skins earn some respect by winning games, nobody is going to give it to us. Losing 6 out of the last 8 doesn't help. Unless Zorn goes 12 and 4 or makes the super bowl, we will have a new coach and a new quarterback and here we go again.................

05-12-2009, 11:28 AM	#15
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance PPL act like DS is firing HC's left and right. He brought in Spurrier when he got here,at the time many teams had tried to lure him out of the college ranks.Spurrier resigned and he went back to Gibbs. who re-retired so he brought in Zorn. so its not like he is giving HC's a short leash, they either resign or retire. which cant be put on the owner.

I like the Skins chances already - Peter King has us listed as #23 with no chance

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